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pretty lost. 77 in big pot
i have about 70 hands on each opponent, all from the current session. Both utg and mp are awful. Beyond awful actually. Utg is just plain clueless while mp might be drunk or something.
He has done some really weird plays that has given me some trubble and he is also running very good during the last 45 minutes. I am almost certain that both are likely to take their hands to the river no matter what, as long as they have one overcard or any remote draw. Mp might even need less then that. i am not sure about my own play on any street. party 5/10 6max, six handed Hero is sb with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Utg (51/14/0,97) raises, MP (92/18/0,7) calls, CO (26/19/3,4) raises, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds. Flop: (13 sb) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (Four players) Hero checks, UTG bets, MP calls, CO raises, Hero calls, utg calls, MP calls. Turn (10.5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (Four players) Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets, CO folds, Hero raises, UTG calls, MP calls. River (16,5 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Three players) checked around. |
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Re: pretty lost. 77 in big pot
Fold preflop.
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Re: pretty lost. 77 in big pot
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Fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Yep. |
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Re: pretty lost. 77 in big pot
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Fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: pretty lost. 77 in big pot
yes, i do fold here 90% of the time.
But the quality of my opponents plus the fact that the flop will be easy to play the vast majority of times persuaded me to call this time. i might have been wrong, of course. Any toughts about post flop? |
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Re: pretty lost. 77 in big pot
Fold preflop, because you are out of position with a marginal hand facing aggressive opponents (bad or not, their aggression forces you out). You need AA-JJ, maybe AK to play here, and you should cap. If I misclicked and found myself involved, I would drop on the flop unless I caught a set or the flop was all unders.
edit: Your turn raise puzzles me. There are 3 of them and an overcard just fell. As you said, they are going to see the river. There is a some chance you are good, but if you are, as you can see from this result, you aren't getting any more out of them on the end unless someone wants to bluff again, and your turn raise nixed that. |
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Re: pretty lost. 77 in big pot
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edit: Your turn raise puzzles me. There are 3 of them and an overcard just fell. As you said, they are going to see the river. There is a some chance you are good, but if you are, as you can see from this result, you aren't getting any more out of them on the end unless someone wants to bluff again, and your turn raise nixed that. [/ QUOTE ] I agree, they are probably going to the river. But it felt wrong not to try to protect my hand when the best possible thing happened on the turn (CO folded). For all I know, MP might be using "tilt blocker" to cover up his hole cards [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], and if UTG has JTs or something it would be hard to call even for him. But again, every street in this hand felt weird. |
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Re: pretty lost. 77 in big pot
No way I fold preflop given this lineup. MP calls anything, so he doesn't need to have any kind of hand here and CO is very aggro, which means he could have any PP or KT or whatever. CO's 3-bet is particularly suspect when you consider that he may well be raising light to isolate the uber-fishies.
Call preflop, then do whatever you can to protect your hand on an innocuous flop like the one you had. I check/call the turn with my 6 outs. Fold the river. |
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Re: pretty lost. 77 in big pot
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I check/call the turn with my 6 outs. Fold the river. [/ QUOTE ] Do you really think i should fold the river (considering the opponents) with middle pair getting more than 16-1? That thought didnīt cross my mind. When CO folded the turn i was pretty much taking this baby to showdown. |
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Re: pretty lost. 77 in big pot
Maybe you're right given the pot size. Although I'd bet you're behind pretty close to one out of eighteen times here.
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