Two hands of KK i played

Played a £1000 buyin NLHE tournament last week, which had 192 runners. started with 10k stack and blinds 25-50 - Thomas Kremser was the tournament referee so you could say it was well run(once it got started that is).

we were upto the 4th level (200-400 blinds), and i`d not shown any hands down yet because id bluffed off a few small pots and stole a few blinds, then this hand came up.

UTG i raise to 1600 with KK, UTG+2 (who was a loose player from wot ive seen on tv) raises allin for 7k and UTG+5 (who was a tight player from wot id seen on the night)re-raises allin for 15k. I had 14k. Wot happened - or wot do u think should have happened?

The next hand i had 20k and blinds were at 400-800. UTG limps, pass,pass,pass - i raise to 3200 with KK everyone passes to the UTG limper who makes it 10k to go. wot happened again - or wot do u think shoulda happened?

Cheers,

Tommy

[Superfluous Man]

1. Call and double up.
2. (Oops, actually, jam over the top) and double up.

well here is what i think could have happend.

first hand:
the loose guy raising all in dosent really mean much seen as his loose,his hand could be anything from AA-88 AK-AT and seen as he is on low stack its very possible that he could have the lower range of hands.

the tight player making it 15000K id different story,he is tight but he knows that the other guy is loose so with a hand like AA-JJ AK-AQ he could have made this move.
also he could have made this move purely so isolate you from the hand and gets heads up with the loose guy.
from his hand range the only thing that has you beat is AA.and thats unlikely cuz if he had AA maybe he would just call hoping that you will call as well and then push on the flop.
so based on this i think you should have called.

in the 1st hand the loose guy had JJ and the tight plyr QQ. the pocket kings would have held up - had i called!

In the 2nd pot i passed them again! so who knows what he had.

This was my 1st case of playing a tournament this high, and to be honest id been playing very aggressively before both these hands came up! Wot im saying is i set it up so it looked like i was stealing again - but then passed!!???

Crazy hey? But at least i know i wont be doing that again.

[nath]

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in the 1st hand the loose guy had JJ and the tight plyr QQ. the pocket kings would have held up - had i called!

In the 2nd pot i passed them again! so who knows what he had.

This was my 1st case of playing a tournament this high, and to be honest id been playing very aggressively before both these hands came up! Wot im saying is i set it up so it looked like i was stealing again - but then passed!!???

Crazy hey? But at least i know i wont be doing that again.

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Uhh, if you play KK to look like you're stealing, then fold when someone plays back, you're sabotaging yourself.

Besides, don't fold KK. Just don't.

[sdplayerb]

I think his push was terrible with QQ. At best I flat call there.
You also had not stated you were playing aggressive until this post. You need to do a better job of giving details.

[Roman]

if he could fold out KK, I love the push.

[nuclear500]

You folded Kings? Twice? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I hope to dear god you had an incredible read that was just simply wrong.

[Rduke55]

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from ANY hand range the only thing that has you beat is AA.

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Ah, my first FYP.
In both these hand all your money is going in and it's a huge mistake otherwise.

[diebitter]

Call and win both.