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UB 5/10. First lap at this table, seems fairly typical.
I'm dealt 22 on the button. Folded around to poster in CO, who checks. I call, SB calls and four of us see the flop. Flop - 2s As Ks BB bets, poster and I call. Turn - Jc (this hand just keeps getting better) BB bets, only I call. River - 4c BB checks, I bet, BB calls. I take it down. BB had Qd3s for...a Queen. -- Homer |
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I think I should have raised the turn after the poster folded and it got to be heads-up. If BB is drawing I charge him the maximum to do so by raising. If he has a flush or straight he will likely reraise in which case I can fold if I don't fill on the river. Then again, he did pay me off with a Queen on the river after I only called the turn! [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
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Would you really fold a set for one river bet in a heads up pot? I don't think I've ever done that before (at least not online). I agree that you should have raised on the turn. In addition to the times he is drawing, you will get 3 BB when he has a weaker made hand than yours, which seems likely given the board texture. There are many scare cards that will induce him to check the river, thus only allowing you to only collect 2 if you wait till the river.
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Against this particular opponent, a three-bet from out of position means that he has a flush or straight, I am nearly 100% certain. Against almost all opponents I would not fold a set on the river for one bet, but against this opponent I would.
-- Homer p.s. - If you posted the same hand I'd probably say that you would be crazy to fold a set on the river for a single bet heads-up as well! [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] |
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hi holm
just read the posts and see that you'd consider folding if reraised. holmer, will you forget about folding? you cannot fold your set heads up under any circumstance when the pot is this large. where do you get these ideas holm? i believe you when you say that you'd fold, and i'm glad your honest. your honesty enables us to stop the leak. but you must know that you'll never fold trips again when heads up in a huge pot. my gosh holmer, you'd almost have to call with two lower pair just to stop future bluffs. one thing mason tells everyone until he is blue in the face is to make the tough calls to prevent the other players from taking shots only at you. there is a lot of merit to that philosophy. it means calling often, even when we know we're beaten. now, of course that is not saying to call every time, but in this situation holm, you have other good reasons to call even if you know you're beaten. you cannot fold here. i don't know if i'm getting through, but believe me, folding is not an option here, even when the board fours on you. i just read your answer holm. you cannot fold even if you're positive about your read. your opponent knows as well as you do that you consider him tight. these opponents are more likely to bluff you holmer than even an aggressive. |
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you're wrong elysium. if this opponent three-bets me out of position heads-up with this board he has me beat. he has either a straight or flush. i know this opponent. if i am sure i am sure - calling will do me no good if i don't fill on the river. i would not do this against all opponents obviously.
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Fold preflop. I'd raise the flop.
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I'd raise the flop, and failing that, raise the turn.
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Ulysses/JR, why raise the flop instead of the turn? If my opponent is likely to be betting a club draw (or a weaker made hand for that matter), then aren't I better off waiting until the turn to pop him? I should think that this would be even better due to the third player in the hand between us, who could also be on a club draw or have a worse made hand.
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on a scary board like this, i want to find out soon if im behind or drawing. id much rather be 3 bet on the flop here than on the turn. unless this player is likely to jam a draw on the flop. THEN i may wait til the turn. since the info would be better gained.
but of course, you could fold to the bet on the river if you miss after being 3 bet. *player dependent you could play it both ways. my preference is the flop b |
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