HOH2 on continuation size bets: don't agree they should be half pot

[betgo]

Harrington says continuation bets should be half pot to get a good return on you bluffing dollar. However, he says you should vary the size so it is not obvious.

I usually like to make a continuation bet the same size as if I hit. I want it to look identical. If I raise with AK and there is a low flop, I want it to look like I have JJ and I want to protect my hand, but wouldn't mind a call. If I raise with 88 and the flop is ace high, I want to bet it like I had AK.

[C-Dog]

If you make the bet Half Pot, they dont have the odds to draw to anything. So if they are behind, they make a mistake to call. And if they are ahead you saved yourself some money, and kept the pot manageable in case you need to get away.


C-Dog

[hurlyburly]

How can that be when they're getting 3/1 on their call? 1/2 pot prices in some draws, prices out others.

[ghostwriter]

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How can that be when they're getting 3/1 on their call? 1/2 pot prices in some draws, prices out others.

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It's 3/1 to see the turn (1 card) not the turn and river (2 card).

[SoBeDude]

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How can that be when they're getting 3/1 on their call? 1/2 pot prices in some draws, prices out others.

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It's 3/1 to see the turn (1 card) not the turn and river (2 card).

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Um don't forget implied odds, which can easily make a call correct.

-Scott

[LethalRose]

Ive said it once, I'll say it again.

HOH is a dangerous book.

[Lloyd]

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Ive said it once, I'll say it again.

HOH is a dangerous book.

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I've said it once, I'll say it again, please elaborate. This type of a comment is more harmful than good. If you have issues bring them up but don't just keep saying it's dangerous. That doesn't contribute anything.

[Annulus]

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Ive said it once, I'll say it again.

HOH is a dangerous book.

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Id also like some elaboration. This is the 2nd time you have made this comment, and the 2nd time you have been asked to elaborate. Please inform us idiots.

[curtains]

All information is dangerous if you dont know how to apply it.

For instance if someone says to be very tight preflop and you go around folding QQ in absurd situations, then the information was dangerous for you.

When Harrington starts yammering on about M and Q and the like, a large percentage of people will completely misinterpret everything he's saying and start making faulty decisions based on these "M" and "Q" numbers. Then the information was dangerous for them.

Almost all good information will be misinterpreted by a good percentage of the readers, and will lead them to make plays that have no bearing on what the author was trying to say. Just look at the number of "Gigabet plays" that have been posted on this forum. Look at the examples of the "Stop and Go" that are posted and have nothing to do with the actual point of the stop+go.

It's clear that a lot of these people would have been better off if they never heard of the concepts to begin with, or at least they would have been better off for that particular hand that they posted.

[Annulus]

i cant argue with that curtains. i totally agree.