Variance

MTBlue · #1 09-10-2005, 07:10 PM

I'm a succesful NL player and decided to try 10/20 limit 6max today and lost 10 BB per hundred hands over 2,000 hands. I assume I'm horrible but is this to be expected as a standard start up cost for someone with basic limit skills?

rmarotti · #2 09-10-2005, 07:26 PM

YSSCKY?

MTBlue · #3 09-10-2005, 07:36 PM

Probably, but I was a successful small stakes limit player before I switched to NL. I guess the real question what type of start up cost can be associated with switching games? assuming my stats aren't outrageous (23/14/1.7). I'm kinda tired of NL and looking for a change-up and don't really enjoy playing penny poker (3/6 Limit or lower).

CardSharpCook · #4 09-10-2005, 09:06 PM

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YSSCKY?

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I see this everywhere. Someone explain to this old geyser what this means?

As for the OP, dude, that's rough. OTOH, I can run that poorly over 2K hands. OTOOH, When I do it, it is variance. When you do it, it is because you are a losing player. Obviously you have problems with your game. Stop bluffing. Tighten up and fly right.

jgorham · #5 09-10-2005, 09:27 PM

It means "you should so consider killing yourself." You need to hang out in OOT more [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

jason_t · #6 09-10-2005, 09:27 PM

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It means "you should seriously consider killing yourself." You need to hang out in OOT more [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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CardSharpCook · #7 09-10-2005, 09:31 PM

Jason, do you run the search engine for "OOT" every hour or something? Anything OOT, you are there!

I spend plenty of time in OOT, but YSSCKY has never made sense to me. I even asked once. And of course, I've tried about 100 anagrams. Thanks for filling me in.

Klepton · #8 09-10-2005, 10:36 PM

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It means "you should seriously consider killing yourself." You need to hang out in small stakes more [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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FYFYP

krishanleong · #9 09-10-2005, 09:59 PM

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I'm a succesful NL player and decided to try 10/20 limit 6max today and lost 10 BB per hundred hands over 2,000 hands. I assume I'm horrible but is this to be expected as a standard start up cost for someone with basic limit skills?

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10/20 is also not an easy game. You really have to have a solid SH limit game to beat it. If you are switching over out of boredom, I'd play 3/6. If that is too low play 5/10 but even 5/10 requires a solid understanding of relative hand values that isn't easy to aquire. That said, it's very likely you are running bad. (10) BB/100 isn't easy to achieve with your VP$IP/PFR.

FWIW there was a thread today where a long term 3 BB winner over 500K went through a 650 BB downswing. The consensus is it was a once in a lifetime downswing. But you should expect 100-200 downswings quite regularly.

Krishan

CardSharpCook · #10 09-10-2005, 10:05 PM

Oh come on, this has nothing to do with variance. Why do you instantly assume that any poster here is a winning player? Here is a guy switching from NL to L. Of course he is a losing player at L right now. Now he can become a winning player, but he is currently a pretty massive loser with major holes in his game.

No offense to the OP, when I first started 15/30 I was a massive loser as well. Except this and work on it. This isn't variance.