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#1
09-09-2005, 11:12 AM
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For Flair1239 - Not paying off a flush draw
You made a post the other day wondering about situations where you would not pay somebody off when the river completes a flush.
Here is hand I played last night. A really awfull player limps in MP1, a rock limps in MP3, I call on the button with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], sb completes, bb checks Flop (5 players - Pot 5 SB): K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] checked to me, I bet, sb calls, bb folds, MP1 calls, MP3 folds FYI, the sb is a good player. Turn (3 players - Pot 4BB): 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] sb checks, MP1 bets all-in for $4, I complete to $30, sb calls. River (3 players, 1 all-in - Pot 6.something BB): 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] sb bets, I fold. 
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#2
09-09-2005, 11:42 AM
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Re: For Flair1239 - Not paying off a flush draw
WOuld I be correct in saying, that you did not fear SB had a lesser King (or pair), because he did not take the oppurtunity on the flop to get HU with you. And the fact that the SB being a good player, he is not chasing a naked gutshot... so the flush is the only legitiamte draw out there.
Also the pot is not really that large (although I would classify it as a medium sized pot at this point). Can you talk me through it a little bit, because I think I am following you... but in all honesty... I probably do payoff here, give me a couple things to think about or ask some pointed questions... this interests me and is something I have spent a lot of time thinking about the last couple weeks. Thank you.
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#3
09-09-2005, 11:54 AM
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Re: For Flair1239 - Not paying off a flush draw
Actually, on the river it should say that we have a main pot of about 4BB and a side pot of about 2BB.
That is one factor that lead me to fold, but there are others.
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#4
09-09-2005, 12:18 PM
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Re: For Flair1239 - Not paying off a flush draw
why no raise pf?
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#5
09-09-2005, 01:06 PM
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Re: For Flair1239 - Not paying off a flush draw
Why this fear about paying off one bet on the river? I understand that the SB is a good player, but not showing down here seems a little extreme, no?
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#8
09-09-2005, 02:12 PM
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Re: For Flair1239 - Not paying off a flush draw
Calling one BB in a 4 bb pot? seems like it doesn't take much of a read to be at least 80 % sure you're beat. What else could he have?
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#10
09-09-2005, 02:14 PM
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Re: For Flair1239 - Not paying off a flush draw
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This is a very read dependent fold, then, and those are rarely good for forum discussion. [/ QUOTE ] No it isn't. I told you the guy plays good. Show me a hand that a good player plays this way that I can beat. Keep in mind that there is an all-in player.
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