J8s 20-40 bb

[mike l.]

i have Jh8h in the bb in a very good so cal 20-40 live game. utg a loose passive old lady raises, she gets 3 callers, i call. 5 of us.

the flop is 9s8d4h. i check, utg bets, 2 callers (loose random bad), i call.

the turn is the Kh. i check, utg bets, 2 caller, i checkraise.

comments?

[Michael Davis]

"the turn is the Kh. i check, utg bets, 2 caller, i checkraise."

You're gonna need to provide something else, like "bettor likes to find tough folds" and "callers would always raise if they had top pair."

Oops. Didn't realize you picked up a draw. Disregard comments.

-Michael

[Rick Nebiolo]

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Oops. Didn't realize you picked up a draw. Disregard comments.

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Does this count as a strategy post?

~ Rick

[Steve Giufre]

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i have Jh8h in the bb in a very good so cal 20-40 live game. utg a loose passive old lady raises, she gets 3 callers, i call. 5 of us.

the flop is 9s8d4h. i check, utg bets, 2 callers (loose random bad), i call.

the turn is the Kh. i check, utg bets, 2 caller, i checkraise.

comments?

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I dont mind checkraising here, the only problem is that your position kind of sucks. If loose passive lady wakes up with a hand she is gonna three bet your ass. If she folds the two guys in the middle and forces you to put in a third bet HU on the turn old lady is really gonna own you. If you have been pretty aggro up this point I really dont like it, but if you feel like she might be gunshy to pull the triger again on the turn with good but not great hands then I think its OK.

Also, how likely is she to fold something like 1010 or QQ on the turn? Would she always bet those hand again on the turn? Interesting hand.

[mike l.]

the only hands she's 3 betting the turn with here is a set. she would probably fold QQ and TT but maybe not all the time.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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the only hands she's 3 betting the turn with here is a set. she would probably fold QQ and TT but maybe not all the time.

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Agree about the set but I can't see a loose passive folding QQ or TT.

~ Rick

[Steve Giufre]

I've thought about it and I think its expert.

[rmarotti]

Maybe this is too simple of a thought for this game, but if this c/raise is primarily a semibluff then it's bad. The point of a semibluff is that it has some chance of making someone fold a hand that beats you, which in my limited experience, will not happen at the Commerce 20 game. If you think (for some reason [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ) there's a decent chance your pair is good then I love it .

[Duke]

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Maybe this is too simple of a thought for this game, but if this c/raise is primarily a semibluff then it's bad. The point of a semibluff is that it has some chance of making someone fold a hand that beats you, which in my limited experience, will not happen at the Commerce 20 game. If you think (for some reason [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ) there's a decent chance your pair is good then I love it .

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Or if every single out is good.

~D

[rmarotti]

Oh yah, duh. That makes me like the c/raise a lot more.

I suck at poker.