Somewhat early push

AliasMrJones · #1 09-08-2005, 01:27 AM

Was 4-tabling and no good reads other than SB is tight and passive preflop and BB is loose and aggressive. With so many people left and pretty decent stacks all around I thought I needed to pick up some chips before I got too low. Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) converter

AliasMrJones (t750)
SB (t745)
BB (t2380)
UTG (t1530)
MP1 (t1155)
MP2 (t1565)
CO (t1875)

Preflop: AliasMrJones is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, AliasMrJones is all-in.

durron597 · #2 09-08-2005, 01:37 AM

Was BB loose-aggressive-bad or loose-aggressive-good? The better I think he is the more likely I am to push.

AliasMrJones · #3 09-08-2005, 02:10 AM

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Was BB loose-aggressive-bad or loose-aggressive-good? The better I think he is the more likely I am to push.

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To be perfectly honest, I was multitabling and didn't have a good read on BB. The above is from his PT stats post tourney. Looking at his stats (88% VPIP 20% PFR) he could only be bad, but I actually didn't know it at the time.

#4 09-08-2005, 01:44 AM

I don't like it. Too much risk of busting with the blinds still only at t150 and several hands before they get back to you. BB is going to have a very large range with his stack and your read on him, and that range will be a big favorite against your hand.

I'd wait and see if I get some more pushable hands in the next couple cycles.

applejuicekid · #5 09-08-2005, 01:44 AM

I think this is a good push. You might not have a better stealing opportunity for a while. I definitely push here if the blinds are raising soon.

Jman28 · #6 09-08-2005, 01:50 AM

This is a pure math question. You need to put the remaining players on calling ranges and calculate your push equity and fold equity.

AliasMrJones · #7 09-08-2005, 02:07 AM

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This is a pure math question. You need to put the remaining players on calling ranges and calculate your push equity and fold equity.

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Well, duh, but that's kind of hard to do when you have 60 seconds to make a decision.

Jman28 · #8 09-08-2005, 02:08 AM

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This is a pure math question. You need to put the remaining players on calling ranges and calculate your push equity and fold equity.

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Well, duh, but that's kind of hard to do when you have 60 seconds to make a decision.

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Right. But that's what you should be doing now, rather than posting the hand.

AliasMrJones · #9 09-08-2005, 02:12 AM

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This is a pure math question. You need to put the remaining players on calling ranges and calculate your push equity and fold equity.

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Well, duh, but that's kind of hard to do when you have 60 seconds to make a decision.

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Right. But that's what you should be doing now, rather than posting the hand.

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I already ran it through ICM. I wanted to get others opinions and thinking.

durron597 · #10 09-08-2005, 02:09 AM

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This is a pure math question. You need to put the remaining players on calling ranges and calculate your push equity and fold equity.

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Well, duh, but that's kind of hard to do when you have 60 seconds to make a decision.

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You didn't answer my question. SB is probably folding. If BB likes to play pots and is the sort "f this loser raising my blind" fold. If he is a solid, good LAG then he will likely fold knowing he will get a better spot later.