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A hand from the archives
A discussion that took place in a hand posted earlier today reminded me of this hand from the archives. I think discussing it again may be useful.
Loose EP open limps, solid TAG raises in the hijack, TAG calls in CO, Hero calls on Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], weak/loose calls in SB and TAG calls in BB. Flop: (12 sb) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players) Blinds checks, EP bets, hijack raises, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds, EP calls. Turn: (10 bb) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players) Checked to hijack who bets, Hero raises, SB folds, EP folds, hijack 3-bets, Hero calls. River: (16 bb) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players) Hijack checks, Hero bets, hijack calls. Ignore preflop. Don't tell Hero to find a new game. |
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Re: A hand from the archives
[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: A hand from the archives
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A discussion that took place in a hand posted earlier today reminded me of this hand from the archives. I think discussing it again may be useful. Loose EP open limps, solid TAG raises in the hijack, TAG calls in CO, Hero calls on Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], weak/loose calls in SB and TAG calls in BB. Flop: (12 sb) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players) Blinds checks, EP bets, hijack raises, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds, EP calls. Turn: (10 bb) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players) Checked to hijack who bets, Hero raises, SB folds, EP folds, hijack 3-bets, Hero calls. River: (16 bb) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players) Hijack checks, Hero bets, hijack calls. Ignore preflop. Don't tell Hero to find a new game. [/ QUOTE ] This had got to be the worst hand I've ever seen. You CC PF with trash. You CC on the flop with bottom pair no kicker with two trashy backdoor draws. You raise the turn with your trash backdoor draws. You river a trash two pair. Good job. And when I say 'you', i don't mean JT, just the Hero. |
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Re: A hand from the archives
Preflop was asked to be ignored. Run some math on th flop call. It's nowhere near as bad as you make it sound.
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Re: A hand from the archives
I think the flop call is only close if you are closing the action.
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Re: A hand from the archives
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Preflop was asked to be ignored. Run some math on th flop call. It's nowhere near as bad as you make it sound. [/ QUOTE ] especially considering that the hero is getting 7.5-1 on the flop call with bottom pair+Bdoor straight and bdoor flush draws. that's a good flop call |
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Re: A hand from the archives
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[ QUOTE ] Preflop was asked to be ignored. Run some math on th flop call. It's nowhere near as bad as you make it sound. [/ QUOTE ] especially considering that the hero is getting 7.5-1 on the flop call with bottom pair+Bdoor straight and bdoor flush draws. that's a good flop call [/ QUOTE ] That is if it's not 3-bet, and or capped behind him. I tended to dump hands like this just because they are so weak. If he had middle pair + overcard + backdoor draws that's different. He has to go runner runner or spike a 5 most of the time to win this one. |
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Re: A hand from the archives
The stuff earlier is more debatable, obviously the preflop call is a long run bad move and the flop call is goofy. The turn is sexy but in a "might get you in the clinic" kinda way. All that said, the river is an obvious value bet and the most obvious part of the hand.
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Re: A hand from the archives
"obvious"
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Re: A hand from the archives
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This had got to be the worst hand I've ever seen. You CC PF with trash. You CC on the flop with bottom pair no kicker with two trashy backdoor draws. You raise the turn with your trash backdoor draws. You river a trash two pair. Good job. And when I say 'you', i don't mean JT, just the Hero. [/ QUOTE ] This is probably the best hand I've ever seen, ignoring pre-flop. |
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