A limp/reraise All In UTG can only mean one thing right?

[Dave D]

I think this hand will bother me the rest of the tourney...

Recently moved to this table, no real reads. 370 out of 730 left in a 20+2, top 80 pay.

I folded here and it's gonna bother me for a while.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+1 (t805)
Hero (t4115)
MP1 (t4200)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 (t2470)</font>
MP3 (t1265)
CO (t3060)
Button (t762)
SB (t520)
BB (t2585)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t1945)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t200, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG pushes for 1895. Hero...

I've seen people attempt this with some weaker hands, like 9's, T's, or AK, but not enough to make calling with J's a profitable proposition. If UTG's stack or yours were shorter, it would be different, but you've still got 30+BB's and a player to act behind you, so I think you can comfortably fold here.

[mts]

how is your image?

[Dave D]

I'm new to the table, but should be tight, I think this is the first hand I've played.

[justT]

Howard Lederer on his dvd recommended occasionally making this play with AK, the advantage being you would occasionally get hands that were ahead of you to fold (like JJ or QQ).

[TomHimself]

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A limp/reraise All In UTG can only mean one thing right?

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i have seen 22-AA and A2-AK do this.

edit- i probaly fold though, if it was QQ i would call

[Dave D]

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edit- i probaly fold though, if it was QQ i would call

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This is my thinking also.

Wow, I'm actually surprised to see so many people say fold.

[betgo]

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i probaly fold though, if it was QQ i would call

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What's the difference? Does QQ play better against AA, KK, or AK than JJ? If villain is making a move with a smaller pair or suited connector, it doesn't matter either.

[Dave D]

Well I mean having QQ eliminates JJ as a threat and you're only worried about AA or KK. Having JJ means villian could have QQ, AA, or KK. There's less hands that I'm worried about, and more I dominate.

I dunno, it'd still be a tough call.


Incidently, I folded, and the other caller (of my 200) called w/ AK, UTG had TT, makes a set, but would have lost to my set.

Sigh.

[CardSharpCook]

there is no difference btwn QQ/JJ here. I usually call here.