AQs Throwing in the towel!

Drontier · #1 09-02-2005, 01:53 AM

I give up! Bad flop? Bad turn!
BB is loose passive, doubt he will bluff(may bet draws) Other guy is unknown. I've been betting most of the flops after I raise pf of course. But by betting this one I just felt like I was giving free money.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Turn: (3 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Button folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB

Lurker4 · #2 09-02-2005, 02:35 AM

I usually bet this flop here. Make it 4-way, and I might check. This turn fold is horrible. You know you have a double gutter + overs right?

Drontier · #3 09-02-2005, 02:59 AM

can i hit myself now? I did not see a double gut, just saw one.

jrbick · #4 09-02-2005, 04:54 AM

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You know you have a double gutter

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The fact that I missed this tells me one thing: go to bed. just wow...

clownshoes · #5 09-02-2005, 03:35 AM

Bet the flop and turn.

Transference · #6 09-02-2005, 03:38 AM

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But by betting this one I just felt like I was giving free money.

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Why?

Drontier · #7 09-02-2005, 04:09 AM

you guys do understand that if you bet your overs everytime you get a flop like this that is almost surely hit by someone, and you still lead out youre just posting a bigger blind right?

jrbick · #8 09-02-2005, 04:51 AM

I bet the flop. I bet the turn. You want people to fold and they aren't going to if you check.

If called both times I give up on the R UI (usually).

einbert · #9 09-02-2005, 05:05 AM

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I bet the flop. I bet the turn. You want people to fold and they aren't going to if you check.

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I like people folding. But these guys aren't folding better hands than ours. And we will get raised by draws and will probably not get to showdown anyway. On the turn, there is little chance that hero has the best hand.

If you guys are constantly making bets where there is only a tiny chance you have the best hand, it is going to be hard to hold on to your money.

Megenoita · #10 09-15-2005, 11:39 PM

Einbert, I'm really confused by your flop check, but maybe this is a hole in my game. Do you really think that this board should slow us from betting? If they missed the flop, we can take it down now, and if they have a piece, we have decent equity. I'm just not understanding why you check and scream, "I'm a puss with overcards."

It IS interesting that you state that we wont get a better hand to fold on the flop. This is true, but we can get a hand to fold on the flop that can suck out on us on the turn, right?