Floating DERB

[DcifrThs]

DERB raises from the hijack and im on button w/ Ah4h.

i cold call, blinds are (16/11/1.4) and (22/12/1.2) and they both fold HU.

flop is QxQs8s. DERB bets i call planning on raising the turn.

turn is a blank, like a 3 or something and DERB checks. i bet DERB calls.

river is another blankish card we both check.

Barron

[James282]

Raising DERB on the turn is not the play. He can three-bet you with any number of holdings here.
-James

[DcifrThs]

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Raising DERB on the turn is not the play. He can three-bet you with any number of holdings here.
-James

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im going to a showdown every time here. so do it cheaply?

Barron

[James282]

If you're intent on showing down, then do it cheaply, yes.
-James

[ggbman]

I agree with James and BK that if we go to showdown, we should do it cheaply. But can someone explain to me why a preflop 3 bet is out of the question?

With tight blinds, i would think we might fold out hands like A-5 to A-T, KJ, KQ, etc... which we really don't want to be up against. We have a better chance of getting heads up and having some dead money in the pot. If you three bet, you don't have to play postflop much differently, just try to get to showdown cheaply unless we hit the flop big.

Gabe

[Turning Stone Pro]

I like the cold call preflop, instead of the 3 bet, for this reason.

DERB, unlike any other opponent I have come across, is NOT going to allow you to beat him if he has a better hand, no matter what the board shows at the end. In other words, if he has you beat, even though you have position, he will see it to the end.

I like playing against DERB as cheaply as possible, knowing that you are probably in the lead with A5s here. The benefit of doing this is that DERB is going to pay off if he is behind.

DERB makes his $ by overplaying hands so that his small pairs and medium-high cards hold up when you miss the flop and are forced to fold, and once in a while when he does get a decent hand he invariably gets paid off.

Remember, DERBs VPIP numbers are not as god-awful as some, and the way to make $ against him is his overplay of mediocre hands. Just let him keep betting into you, IMO.

I like Dcifr's play here.

TSP

[bicyclekick]

Sometimes call the flop, sometimes raise the flop.

I odn't mind your float and I think 3 betting 80% and calling 20% with that hand is about the right amount.

[34TheTruth34]

I think you played it perfectly, but I wouldn't have liked the turn raise for the reason james stated

[CardSharpCook]

I agree with the 3-bet PF for the reasons stated.

[catlover]

From what I understand DERB is VPIP 30% yes?

If so, fold preflop. I don't think that VPIP is sufficiently out of line to justify playing A4s in that spot.

If you feel you must play it, 3 bet preflop to knock out the blinds.

I think cold calling a loan preflop raiser is just plain bad play. You are giving odds to the blinds to call with all sorts of hands you'd rather get rid of.

You want to be heads up with position, not caught in the middle when the preflop raiser bets.