Any logic behind this guy's set weakness?

GoCubsGo · #1 08-25-2005, 09:44 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($50.45)
BB ($46.65)
UTG ($27.60)
UTG+1 ($22.15)
MP1 ($54.10)
Hero ($49.75)
MP3 ($5.25)
CO ($20)
Button ($85.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1, Hero calls $1, CO raises to $2, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($10) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $7, CO folds, UTG+1 calls $7.

River: ($24) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $8, UTG+1 calls $8.

Final Pot: $40

Results in white below: 
UTG+1 has 8d 8s (three of a kind, eights).
Hero has 4s 4d (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $40. 

I was really surprised to see what he had here. There are very few hands that beat him, and based on my play, I can't possibly have them. I was going to the felt with this one thinking he was donking Ax or maybe he had 2pr. Is there any reason you can think of for him to check call this river or should I add him to my buddy list?

-Skeme- · #2 08-25-2005, 09:45 PM

He's a passive wuss.

wtfsvi · #3 08-25-2005, 09:55 PM

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There are very few hands that beat him, and based on my play, I can't possibly have them.

[/ QUOTE ] I think 67 makes perfect sense. Why can't you have that? (I'm not saying his call in the end isn't incredibly weak; there's lots of other stuff you can have too.)

Spaded · #4 08-25-2005, 09:59 PM

He was slowplaying until his cat nudged his arm at the wrong moment and he hit "call"

MINETZ · #5 08-25-2005, 10:23 PM

you couldve bet the utrn with qj... just kidding, the answer is becuase hes bad, today i check raised the flop with top 2 and bottom set just calledm e down the whole way, the flush came in on the river and saved me a big bet, some opponents just dont feel comfortable without the stone cold nuts.
Noah

theben · #6 08-25-2005, 10:24 PM

you are just lucky he didnt play his hand better.

kongo_totte · #7 08-25-2005, 10:33 PM

Raise the flop, pot the turn, bet more on the river. You should have lost more on this hand.

GoCubsGo · #8 08-26-2005, 03:49 PM

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Raise the flop, pot the turn, bet more on the river. You should have lost more on this hand.

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I strongly disagree with this. What draw am I trying to block on the flop? I'm kind of tired of posts sayng bet the pot, raise more, etc. Where do you guys play because I want to go there! PSB are called 10% of the time. If I raise on this flop, 3/4 of the time everyone folds. What hand calls a PSB on the river that I beat? That is horrible advice. These guys don't understand pot size or odds or any of that. Most of them will sooner call a $10 bet into a $5 pot than a $20 bet into a $30 pot. When I make pot size bets and raise every time I know I have the better hand, I look at my stats and see something like this:

Pots won at showdown: 2 of 3
Pots won without showdown: 23

You need to reel these fish in. You can't just beat them over the head everytime you have a hand and expect them to call with tpwk. Some of them, yes, but I've seen a lot of players fold an ace on a board of A83 when I have 33. I don't mind taking s small pot with a good hand on a drawing board, but on when my opponents have very few outs, I'm going to keep the bets at a level they will call., whether that is 1/3 of the pot or the whole pot.

wtfsvi · #9 08-26-2005, 03:56 PM

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If I raise on this flop, 3/4 of the time everyone folds.

[/ QUOTE ] If a pot sized raise/bet takes it down 3/4 of the time (where do you play? I wanna go there ) you should make a pot sized raise/bet every time the action is on you. With any two cards. Then tighten up when they start calling.

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TheWorstPlayer · #10 08-26-2005, 05:09 PM

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I'm kind of tired of posts sayng bet the pot, raise more, etc. Where do you guys play because I want to go there!

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