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Looks standard (LC if it is)
Looks standard? Villain is VIP 1000, very loose and passive. not sure what his donking standards are.
How's my flop raise/river check Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP :#A500AF(VIP1000)/ calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP :#A500AF(VIP1000)/ calls. Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">VIP1000 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, VIP1000 calls. Turn: (7 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, VIP1000 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, VIP1000 calls. River: (9 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> VIP1000 checks, Hero checks. Final Pot: 9 BB |
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Re: Looks standard (LC if it is)
Why don't you bet the river? I am trying to learn here but from my perspective the following is true:
1. You are thinking that your ahead at the flop and turn, enough that you are willing to bet out, on what would be most likely a 2 outer if your behind. 2. A safe card falls on the river, unless you put him on 99. If that is the case, given your description as being very loose and passive, I would not expect him to be 'tricky' and risk a check raise after hitting his set. So why not bet out? Seems to me that there is a 50% chance he calls, 40% chance he folds, and 10% chance he raises.... Margon |
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Re: Looks standard (LC if it is)
Well, i figured drawing nearly dead to a 5 or a K, but if he has a busted flush draw, he'll fold. I didn't think I was ahead, I just wanted to get to showdown as cheaply as possible (this may be wrong).
Pretty much, that flop sucked for me, but it was worth 2BB to see a showdown in a 9BB pot, in case he was donking his draw. Who else bets the river? Who just folds the flop? |
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Re: Looks standard (LC if it is)
If you think that you are behind, why bet the Turn and not take a free card? I know that you got one to fold from your bet, but you had a chance to see the river for one small bet with your raise. Then if it is unimproved you could throw it away on the river if you get a bet, or your could just check it down.
Just wondering.... Margon |
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Re: Looks standard (LC if it is)
You are giving a free card to fd. This is bad.
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Re: Looks standard (LC if it is)
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You are giving a free card to fd. This is bad. [/ QUOTE ] So is my line OK? |
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Re: Looks standard (LC if it is)
I like his line actually, he can't afford to give free card to a drawing hand and if he indeed is behind, he's drawing so slim free card probably won't help and THUS a free showdown is a lot better.
I always rather take a free showdown with hand that isn't overpair to the board unless i'm 90% certain he has worse [censored]. And as Baronzeus said, he probably won't call with a hand that doesn't have him beat. |
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Re: Looks standard (LC if it is)
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And as Baronzeus said, he probably won't call with a hand that doesn't have him beat. [/ QUOTE ] this is almost certianly not true, unless this is an extremely rare breed of 100 VPIPer who folds a lot on the river. since having PA HUD with the showdown hands seens, i've been amused very often as to the kinds of hands loose people call you with on the river, esp on paired boards. |
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Re: Looks standard (LC if it is)
I'm playing it exactly the same, since you lose to any K and villain isn't paying off with a busted diamond draw here. I guess you could be paid off by a hand like 66, but I don't think you're ahead of 55+% of the hands that are calling you.
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Re: Looks standard (LC if it is)
Given your read on villain, I fold the flop. Against an unknown party 5/10er, I take your line or possibly check the turn call a bet on the river.
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