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Old 08-24-2005, 07:44 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Precarious top two - lost on river

Villain in this hand is something like 75/5 or whatever. Very loose postflop, too. BB is insanely loose payoff machine as well which is a big reason why the preflop call is a no-brainer. BB is obviously going to call with any two and I will play any pot with him that I can as long as I have halfway decent cards. What do I do on the river? Feel free to comment on other streets as well.

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CO ($175.91)
Button ($204.20)
TWP ($366.30)
BB ($171)
UTG ($555.40)
MP ($192.25)

Preflop: TWP is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. TWP posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, TWP (poster) calls $5, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($24) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">TWP bets $22</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $22, MP folds.

Turn: ($68) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">TWP bets $66</font>, UTG calls $66.

River: ($200) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
TWP...?
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Old 08-24-2005, 08:58 PM
Allinlife Allinlife is offline
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Default Re: Precarious top two - lost on river

valuebet looks g00t, but if he's aggro enough to bluff missed draws here, check calling looks fine too.
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: Precarious top two - lost on river

If he's somewhat river aggro (many of these guys are passive on flop and turn but come to life on the river), then check call. He will surely bet his missed flush draw on this board.

If he's just loose passive all the way, just value/block.

I really think preflop looks questionable. But if you say the table conditions were special enough to make it right, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:14 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Precarious top two - lost on river

Preflop is definitely correct. These guys were that bad postflop. I'm still pretty uncertain though whether I should check/call to let him bet a missed draw or whether I should value bet his... what? overpair? top pair? lower two pair?
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default 100 on the river. fold to any raise. preflop is fine given stacks n/t

rfrf
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: 100 on the river. fold to any raise. preflop is fine given stacks n/t

Fim come on dude, this whole no text thing is getting annoying. Part of what makes your posts such good reading material is that you typically explain WHY you give the advice that you do.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:40 AM
fimbulwinter fimbulwinter is offline
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Default cut me some slack. posting and 4 tabling 4-7 handed right now.

ff
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: cut me some slack. posting and 4 tabling 4-7 handed right now.

Fair enough [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: 100 on the river. fold to any raise. preflop is fine given stacks n/t

LOL I had no idea that rfrf was advice until I read your reply.

This forum needs an FAQ with definitions of commonly used acronyms for those of us who are new here. I did try searching, but a surprisingly high number of words actually have rf in them - like perfect and uberfish!
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: 100 on the river. fold to any raise. preflop is fine given stacks n/t

Ok, so wth is ff rf fim and fkimi?
There is no use searching and you all know it.
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