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Old 08-23-2005, 10:44 AM
Akimka Akimka is offline
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Default 66 heads-up on pretty innocent flop.

Would you play it any differenly against tightish TAG (10/5/2)

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: 66 heads-up on pretty innocent flop.

I've almost decided that I should be folding this preflop, but I'm too much of a set junkie &amp; almost never do. Im not sure that a 10/5 is a guy I attack though, that's closer to rock than TAG, and even on that seemingly innocent flop, I think you are behind an awful lot.

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Old 08-23-2005, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: 66 heads-up on pretty innocent flop.

c/r the flop, lead the turn. Safe fold if he 3-bets or raises the turn.

I think this is similar to the last hand you posted. Your leading/3-betting with mediocre holdings to try and assert pressure, when the same pressure can be achieved with a c/r (less bets).
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: 66 heads-up on pretty innocent flop.

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c/r the flop, lead the turn. Safe fold if he 3-bets or raises the turn.

I think this is similar to the last hand you posted. Your leading/3-betting with mediocre holdings to try and assert pressure, when the same pressure can be achieved with a c/r (less bets).

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Wow. Great advice - I think this is a very reasonable. c/r to save bets while appling pressure, not to hold opponent on hand. Great!
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: 66 heads-up on pretty innocent flop.

I think your line makes it clear you're beat and clear that you shouldn't fold the turn.

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Old 08-23-2005, 10:59 AM
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I think your line makes it clear you're beat and clear that you shouldn't fold the turn.

Rob

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shouldn't fold the turn? ahem...? Sorry but I do not understand....
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:31 PM
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I think your line makes it clear you're beat and clear that you shouldn't fold the turn.

Rob

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shouldn't fold the turn? ahem...? Sorry but I do not understand....

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Look at the pot. Then look at your hand. Then look at the pot again, then look at the board. Therein lies the answer somewhere.

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Old 08-23-2005, 10:59 AM
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I think your line makes it clear you're beat and clear that you shouldn't fold the turn.

Rob

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You do have a smooth 6 outs to improve by the time you get to the turn. I check/fold the flop, but with your line I think Entity is right, you can peel the river.

jvs
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: 66 heads-up on pretty innocent flop.

In heads up pots from the blinds, I generally take one of two lines:

1) 3-bet pre-flop and lead the flop
or
2) Call pre-flop and c/r or c/f the flop.
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:23 AM
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In heads up pots from the blinds, I generally take one of two lines:

1) 3-bet pre-flop and lead the flop
or
2) Call pre-flop and c/r or c/f the flop.

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He isnt in the blinds, he limped UTG
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