A texas hold em hand

Steve Giufre · #1 08-21-2005, 04:02 PM

Opponent is 32/20/2.2. I cant get the converter to work so I'll type it out. 30-60 Party.

Villian
is UTG and raises. All folded to me in the BB with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I call.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, he bets, I call.

Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, he bets, I call.

River 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, he bets, I raise, he calls.

Nightwish · #2 08-21-2005, 04:15 PM

Looks good. I would probably bet the river instead against someone who's not as LAG as this guy, but the probability of this particular opponent checking behind is pretty small.

Justin A · #3 08-21-2005, 04:37 PM

Were you checkraising most river cards? Because I think that river was an especially good card to CR with.

Steve Giufre · #4 08-21-2005, 04:49 PM

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Were you checkraising most river cards? Because I think that river was an especially good card to CR with.

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Yeah I liked the heart since it could freeze him up and keep him from three betting me with some better hands. I was going to checkraise most any river card anyway though.

mmcd · #5 08-21-2005, 04:39 PM

Hand seems super-standard to me.

DcifrThs · #6 08-21-2005, 05:11 PM

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Hand seems super-standard to me.

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then i dont think you are aggressive enough with a relative monster like KQs vs. guys who have the ability to lose many bets when behind.

personally i think this hand is a good change up one, and nowhere near super standard.

however, if this guys stats belie his action given postflop this line will certainly win more from him when he has nothing or A high he kept betting (which since he bet the river its likely he doesn't have Ahigh but a pair). so if thats the case, stevieeeeeeeeeeeee's line is optimal against that exact type of opponent.

-Barron

mmcd · #7 08-21-2005, 05:29 PM

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Hand seems super-standard to me.

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then i dont think you are aggressive enough with a relative monster like KQs vs. guys who have the ability to lose many bets when behind.

personally i think this hand is a good change up one, and nowhere near super standard.

however, if this guys stats belie his action given postflop this line will certainly win more from him when he has nothing or A high he kept betting (which since he bet the river its likely he doesn't have Ahigh but a pair). so if thats the case, stevieeeeeeeeeeeee's line is optimal against that exact type of opponent.

-Barron

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I think a lot of the hands in this guys range can't take any heat on this board. An AF of 2 doesn't necessarily mean a guy that will go off for a ton of bets (although he may well in some spots) it means he bets, raises, and folds twice as often as he calls postflop. If I've been playing seemingly more LAG than usual during the time leading up to the hand, then I'll certainly take a different line, but genrally I think when you give more action on the earlier streets in this spot, you risk losing a guy who will gladly bet when checked to on every street.

Sometimes he'll have something like KJ that would have gone of for a lot bets, but much more often he has something like QT or A8.

Steve Giufre · #8 08-21-2005, 05:32 PM

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I think a lot of the hands in this guys range can't take any heat on this board.

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You just said in 10 words what i tried to say in 400 or so.

ike · #9 08-21-2005, 09:52 PM

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I think a lot of the hands in this guys range can't take any heat on this board.

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You just said in 10 words what i tried to say in 400 or so.

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I think you guys are underestimating how much heat a 32/20/2.2 can take heads up and in position. I don't see him folding this flop to a checkraise basically ever. I see him calling and then raising the turn with many, many of his losers.

elindauer · #10 08-21-2005, 05:02 PM

Since he sees a lot of rivers, I'd check-raise the turn instead. You take a lot of risk checking that river, as many middle pairs will check behind, since they can't beat top of bottom pair any more. I'd say donking the river and check-raising the flop are salso in play as reasonable lines.

my 2 cents.
Eric