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#1
08-20-2005, 05:10 PM
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When should you move up?
Just curious guys,
If your a winning player at .5/$1 and are wondering when is a good time to move up to $1/2, what should be your guide. What I was thinking is... 10k hands 2.5bb/100 or more obviously the bankroll good PT stats... Just curious if I should be moving up... 
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#3
08-20-2005, 05:19 PM
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Re: When should you move up?
I'm the same situation. And since I've got the roll, I have started taking shots at 1/2. Just playing a few sessions every week.
So I would say, take a shot whenever you feel comfortabel. Just be prepared to move down again.
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#4
08-20-2005, 05:25 PM
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Re: When should you move up?
2.5 BB/100 over 10K hands at .5/1 really isn't alot. If someone was winning that much at .5/1 I'd tell them to wait until 20K. The games are so good at that level that your winrate can really move up and down over 10K hands.
You should move up when: You have a bankroll that you personally are comfortable playing with at a higher limit. This could be 300 BB, it could be 3,000 BB. You are sure you are a winner at the limit you are playing, and will continue to win when you move up.
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#5
08-20-2005, 06:32 PM
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Re: When should you move up?
OK, I'm guilty of posing this exact same question not too long ago. I took a couple of shots at 1/2, fumbled around for a bit, and dropped back to my .5/1 comfort zone. I was dissapointed in myself, and stopped playing for a couple of weeks. Got back on, went to 1/2 full time and got pimp-slapped to the tune of 75BB. Some senior posters gave me the brilliant advice of NOT PLAYING 4 TABLES when you aren't quite yet comfortable. I dropped to single tabling, and getting a sweat every now and then. I'm now in the green (just barely, but in the green) and have started to feel a lot more comfortable. The game is different, although not much. Tons of players have done it before, and most comment on how it seemed brutal at the time, but going back now, it's a piece of pie.
You will run into good players, aggressive players, rocks, and donks, just like .5/1. If the $$ scares you, then you aren't ready. If you haven't yet learned to obseve players and their tendencies, you aren't ready. If you don't know what to do when a LPP checkraises your TPNK on the turn when a blank hits, you aren't ready. If you don't know how many outs you have at any time in the hand, well you know the answer by now. Put in the time, not just playing, but learning. It's a challenge to me to get better, and that's why I wanted to move up. I have a job, I don't need the money, but I'm a competitive person. I want to get better. If I just wanted to win, I'd stay at .5/1 forever. You will be told over and over, like I have, that 1/2 full is a weak-tight game. You have to learn to deal with that (getting your TP called down the whole way by an overpair, and such), and it requires that you acquire some new skills. That is the fun part, evolving your game. Good luck, and keep running g00t. Nate
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#6
08-20-2005, 06:28 PM
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Re: When should you move up?
[ QUOTE ]
.5/$1...when is a good time to move up to $1/2. What I was thinking is... 10k hands 2.5bb/100 or more obviously the bankroll [/ QUOTE ] I would think more like... 20k hands min. 10k is an indicator, but not a very sure one. 3.0 BB/100 minimum, 3.5 min. better. Beating Party .5/1 for 2.5 BB is nice, but not really saying a lot, unless your doing it while multitabling 3 or more tables which means you would probably be at 3+ on 2 tables. Bankroll
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#7
08-20-2005, 06:40 PM
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Re: When should you move up?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] .5/$1...when is a good time to move up to $1/2. What I was thinking is... 10k hands 2.5bb/100 or more obviously the bankroll [/ QUOTE ] I would think more like... 20k hands min. 10k is an indicator, but not a very sure one. 3.0 BB/100 minimum, 3.5 min. better. Beating Party .5/1 for 2.5 BB is nice, but not really saying a lot, unless your doing it while multitabling 3 or more tables which means you would probably be at 3+ on 2 tables. Bankroll [/ QUOTE ] Does 3 BB/100 minimum seem a bit high to anyone else? Let alone 3.5 ..
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#9
08-20-2005, 07:38 PM
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Re: When should you move up?
I played just 6k hands before moving up to 1/2 6max
there isn't a set # or bb/100 you need, a lot of ppl run hot at .5/1 have a big winrate and think they are hot [censored], not gonna name names but lets just say the ppl suggesting 2.5/100 is nowhere near enough need a reality check. its more about are you comfortable with the money, it will likely take a while for that to come, are you bankrolled? are you willing to drop down? starting with 1table of 1/2 and 1-2tables .5/1 is a decent way to start the transition, too many ppl feel like they are "1/2" players now and make the move too fast.
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#10
08-21-2005, 12:19 AM
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Re: When should you move up?
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the ppl suggesting 2.5/100 is nowhere near enough need a reality check. [/ QUOTE ] My experience is that I was winning PTY .5/1 at 2.5 BB while I was still making a lot of pretty obvious mistakes in the heat of battle. Once I got to where I thought I was playing pretty good, I was playing at or over 4BB/100. I estimate playing .5/1 really well would yield 5 to 6 and maybe 7 BB/100. Making 2.5BB/100 at .5/1 is mediocre poker at best. If someone is comfortable moving up to 1/2 while playing mediocre, mistake filled poker, go ahead. Maybe my experience is somewhat different than most because of the VPIP levels I play at. (27 @1/2 & 30 @.5/1.) I can't afford to make a lot of postflop mistakes with all those hands. Maybe if you play much tighter, you can transition up easier and avoid a lot of problems simply by only playing premium hands.
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