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08-18-2005, 05:25 PM
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Do fish realize they are fish?
Today I was playing in Pacific poker's Barn burner tournament, and was relocated to a new table.I noticed a player with about 3 times the average stack, and within the first 3 hands, she had called 2 different players all in's, with 2 6 suited(from the button), and 410suited from 2 off the button..both times CALLING an all in with no money invested into the pot, and sucking out both times for a huge pot, adding even more to her stack. I really had a hard time believing someone could be so..wreckless..and wondered just how these people get to getting their money online thinking "I have a shot at winning this thing"(which I did, today my first "big win"=P). It just doesn't make sense to me. I felt her 2 victims pain, and asked her how the heck she played that...Her response, however, was "it was suited"...*shakes head*..back to the big question....do the fish know their fish? heh [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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#3
08-18-2005, 05:34 PM
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Re: Do fish realize they are fish?
Well do you know you are a fish? I mean who would ask a player that is playing 26 why they are doing it? Were you hoping she would stop playing bad cards?
I would suggest you use the chat box to say NH,TY,GG and GL All or better yet don't say anything at all.
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#4
08-18-2005, 05:38 PM
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Re: Do fish realize they are fish?
yeah i say nice hand way too much. or nice bet when people over bet the pot 3-4x. It much better than them betting correct amounts. easier pot-odds decisions..
but i think rolf slotbloom has an article on why you shouldnt say NH to fish.. rolf slotbloom article.. interesting
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#5
08-18-2005, 06:11 PM
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Re: Do fish realize they are fish?
Come to think of it, I can't understand how "nice hand" could ever not be sarcastic. I mean, you were dealt the hand. It's not like you bought it from a dealer or made it yourself. "Nice bet" makes sense, as does "good read", but really, "nice hand"? I'm just as likely to complement someone's avatar on PP. "Hey, you got the guy in the grey suit in the top left? Nice avatar."
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#7
08-19-2005, 11:42 AM
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Re: Do fish realize they are fish?
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Come to think of it, I can't understand how "nice hand" could ever not be sarcastic. I mean, you were dealt the hand. It's not like you bought it from a dealer or made it yourself. "Nice bet" makes sense, as does "good read", but really, "nice hand"? I'm just as likely to complement someone's avatar on PP. "Hey, you got the guy in the grey suit in the top left? Nice avatar." [/ QUOTE ] So, imagine a room. The point is in one corner. You're way off in the other corner, futilely searching for the point. The idea is that fish DON'T KNOW THAT SKILL IS INVOLVED IN POKER or don't care. To their mind, it's a complicated, fun slot machine. Getting a big hand and winning a big pot is fun for them, and that's why they play. Your job is to pat them on the back and help them enjoy it with camaraderie. You should compliment another player for getting good cards. Complimenting them for playing well is always wrong. Even if this weren't true, what sort of demented psychopaths take out their own bad luck on the hapless people who are making them money? Why on earth would you actually opt for a less pleasant atmosphere that will invariably win you less money?
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#8
08-19-2005, 01:09 PM
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Re: Do fish realize they are fish?
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You should compliment another player for getting good cards. Complimenting them for playing well is always wrong. [/ QUOTE ] It is said that complimenting players at the table will subconsciously make other players play to impress you "get your praises". If you praise good play, then the other players will atempt to play better because they have been led to believe that this is what you want. If you praise big hands like 7's full of 3's (with 73o, of course), then players will subconsciously try to make big hands, by drawing to boats when holding 2 pair on a flushed board, or going for gutshots more frequently, and drawing to sets after the flop. This may only work on the mentally inferior, but it gets to a lot of people, and every little bit counts.
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#9
08-21-2005, 05:33 PM
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Re: Do fish realize they are fish?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Come to think of it, I can't understand how "nice hand" could ever not be sarcastic. I mean, you were dealt the hand. It's not like you bought it from a dealer or made it yourself. "Nice bet" makes sense, as does "good read", but really, "nice hand"? I'm just as likely to complement someone's avatar on PP. "Hey, you got the guy in the grey suit in the top left? Nice avatar." [/ QUOTE ] So, imagine a room. The point is in one corner. You're way off in the other corner, futilely searching for the point. The idea is that fish DON'T KNOW THAT SKILL IS INVOLVED IN POKER or don't care. To their mind, it's a complicated, fun slot machine. Getting a big hand and winning a big pot is fun for them, and that's why they play. Your job is to pat them on the back and help them enjoy it with camaraderie. You should compliment another player for getting good cards. Complimenting them for playing well is always wrong. Even if this weren't true, what sort of demented psychopaths take out their own bad luck on the hapless people who are making them money? Why on earth would you actually opt for a less pleasant atmosphere that will invariably win you less money? [/ QUOTE ] Well said....
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#10
08-22-2005, 12:50 AM
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Re: Do fish realize they are fish?
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Well do you know you are a fish? I mean who would ask a player that is playing 26 why they are doing it? Were you hoping she would stop playing bad cards? I would suggest you use the chat box to say NH,TY,GG and GL All or better yet don't say anything at all. [/ QUOTE ]
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