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4 handed, big stack playing properly, dealt AK
***** Hand History for Game 2542273441 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14875806 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, August 15, 22:32:05 EDT 2005 Table Table 15095 (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 4 Seat 1: krAzyAnyway ( $1290 ) Seat 2: FrankieYale ( $4795 ) Seat 4: fredexley ( $1130 ) Seat 5: RamOnTilt ( $785 ) Trny:14875806 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to fredexley [ Ac Kd ] >You have options at Table 15097 Table!. krAzyAnyway folds. FrankieYale is all-In [4795] >You have options at Table 15259 Table!. fredexley? Villain had been diligently pushing his entire stack in whenever given the chance. CrAzy had just doubled through him with KK against QT. I have no problem calling here with Ak although maybe it isn't as trvial as I had thought . Does anybody want to suggest a "good" range for a call here? |
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Re: 4 handed, bitg stack playing properly, dealt AK
this seems like an extremely easy call to me. you're basically in a 3 way tie for last chip position and the big stack is exploiting that. you just said he pushed QT earlier. no chance you're behind and very likely you're ahead. your calling range here should be very wide. id say Ak-AT AA-88 autocalls, many other hands also worth considering.
you're going to have to double up eventually against him and the sooner you do it, the sooner you can start bullying the other two players. |
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Re: 4 handed, big stack playing properly, dealt AK
I was the big stack, did I manage not to finish ITM as usual when I go into bully mode?
Anyways, im obviously pushing a huge range here, still I think its a fold with AKo, very close though. |
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Re: 4 handed, big stack playing properly, dealt AK
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Anyways, im obviously pushing a huge range here, still I think its a fold with AKo, very close though. [/ QUOTE ] how can you possibly reconcile those two statements? it's a call and it isnt close. |
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Re: 4 handed, big stack playing properly, dealt AK
agreed I think you have to call here there isnt anyone short enough to make this a fold
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Re: 4 handed, big stack playing properly, dealt AK
Clear call.
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#7
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Re: 4 handed, big stack playing properly, dealt AK
This is a fold (by ICM) and a pretty clear one at that. If you were in the BB you would have to call, but not here since the short stack will be down to 585 if he folds. You could also call if the raiser had less chips (say 2500), but a loss wouldn't even faze him at this point and you can't vault yourself into the lead by winning this pot.
Brad |
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Re: 4 handed, big stack playing properly, dealt AK
folding this is playing for 3rd. dont do that. i cant believe im reading this many arguments for folding.
shillx, i saw in another post you said your roi on 22s was like 15%. it'd probably be a lot higher if you were making these calls. |
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Re: 4 handed, big stack playing properly, dealt AK
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folding this is playing for 3rd. dont do that. i cant believe im reading this many arguments for folding. [/ QUOTE ] Run an ICM. It is a big mistake to call here, and there is just no way around it. Even if you win this pot, the guy will still have an ass load of chips. It would be one thing if you could take the chip lead and do some damage, but here he can still push into you and there is nothing you can do since you will be right back to the drawing board (only able to call with JJ+ or whatever). Brad |
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Re: 4 handed, big stack playing properly, dealt AK
you finish this with about 2500 chips if you win and he has around 3600.
you forgot to mention that you will then have more than 2x as many chips as 3rd place and almost 5x as many as the other player. what are you calling pushes with 4 handed if not AK? who cares if the big stack "bullies" you at that point, you have enough chips to wait for a huge hand and let him throw his money away with another reckless all in or knock someone else out, leaving you 1 double up away from the chip lead. |
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