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Old 08-14-2005, 10:35 PM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

LOL. Anyone seen my testicles?

***** Hand History for Game 2536818665 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14848273 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Sunday, August 14, 22:29:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 14249 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Two20Inside ( $740 )
Seat 7: erauseo ( $660 )
Seat 8: pokard ( $770 )
Seat 9: xyrophobic ( $1435 )
Seat 5: John_Galt_ ( $1060 )
Seat 2: TirePro00 ( $2255 )
Seat 4: usndiver ( $345 )
Seat 6: Chang26 ( $735 )
Trny:14848273 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobic [ Jc Jh ]
erauseo raises [100].
pokard folds.
xyrophobic folds.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:38 PM
Pasterbator Pasterbator is offline
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Default Re: Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

i just puked on my keyboard.

Sincerely,
A $20+2 player thats thinks UTG had A7s.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:40 PM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default Re: Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

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i just puked on my keyboard.


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From same tournament. Here is why I hate JJ:

***** Hand History for Game 2536877323 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14848273 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Sunday, August 14, 22:39:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 14249 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 8: pokard ( $725 )
Seat 9: xyrophobic ( $1960 )
Seat 5: John_Galt_ ( $830 )
Seat 2: TirePro00 ( $2475 )
Seat 4: usndiver ( $435 )
Seat 6: Chang26 ( $1575 )
Trny:14848273 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobic [ Jh Js ]
TirePro00 folds.
usndiver raises [300].
John_Galt_ folds.
Chang26 folds.
pokard folds.
xyrophobic is all-In [1810]
usndiver is all-In [135]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Kc, 9d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
usndiver shows [ As, Qs ] a pair of aces.
xyrophobic shows [ Jh, Js ] a pair of jacks.
xyrophobic wins 1525 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of jacks.
usndiver wins 945 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
nh
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Old 08-15-2005, 01:28 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

That's a terrible reason to hate JJ.
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:36 AM
Nicok7 Nicok7 is offline
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Default Re: Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

Maybe such plays are why you don't earn money with JJ. If you have a feeling he is extremely storng at least pay and try to get a set. Given raiser's stack a push is much more in order IMO. And personally I might have raised preflop first.
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:40 PM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default Re: Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

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Maybe such plays are why you don't earn money with JJ.

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If anything, I have been losing money by overplaying them PF.

I think this has resulted in overcorrection. Since looking over my hand data, I have tried to play JJ more cautiously.

I think another thing is that I am running into adjustment problems by bouncing between levels. I will sometimes play a 55, a 109, and a 22 consecutively, so I think I might not be playing optimally. IE- Giving 22
players the same credit I would extend to a 109 player, and the inverse.

It might make sense for me to post about 20 of my JJ hands for the forum to look at....
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:40 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

I would call
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:49 PM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default Re: Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

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I would call

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I would hate calling here only to get raised behind... In the immortal words of TJ Cloutier "Reraise or fold."

I think I am scared to play JJ now that I have looked over my hand performance. It's 10th from the bottom. Ugh. WTF.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

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I think I am scared to play JJ now that I have looked over my hand performance. It's 10th from the bottom. Ugh. WTF.

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Don't worry. It's just variance. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: Folding JJ to a minraise preflop.

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Don't worry. It's just variance. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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It probably is. 72 has been more profitable for me.

(Losing less, that is.)
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