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Calling a river overbet?
My player reading skills are terrible but my read on the villian is that he is, at worst, a competent player. While I appreciated comments on all streets, I am mainly wondering how you guys would read this river overbet. It just didn't add up to me, I thought it just didn't fit.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$25) <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> link CO ($21.20) Button ($24.90) Hero ($27.20) BB ($46.48) UTG ($13.30) UTG+1 ($7.60) MP1 ($29.10) MP2 ($28.75) MP3 ($6.00) Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.65</font>, BB calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>. Flop: ($1.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.00</font>, BB calls $1.00. Turn: ($3.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.00</font>, BB calls $2.00. River: ($7.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00. Final Pot: $37.75. |
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Re: Calling a river overbet?
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My player reading skills are terrible but my read on the villian is that he is, at worst, a competent player. While I appreciated comments on all streets, I am mainly wondering how you guys would read this river overbet. It just didn't add up to me, I thought it just didn't fit. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$25) <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> link CO ($21.20) Button ($24.90) Hero ($27.20) BB ($46.48) UTG ($13.30) UTG+1 ($7.60) MP1 ($29.10) MP2 ($28.75) MP3 ($6.00) Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.65</font>, BB calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>. Flop: ($1.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.00</font>, BB calls $1.00. Turn: ($3.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.00</font>, BB calls $2.00. River: ($7.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00. Final Pot: $37.75. [/ QUOTE ] Raise more pre-flop. And why didn't you bet the river? It looks like he has either has a weak made hand or was sandbagging the flush / straight on the turn. Bet the river and fold to a raise. As played I'm folding to his overbet unless yuo've seen him do it with air. If he was bluffing why the huge overbet, that makes no sense at all. |
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Re: Calling a river overbet?
I would raise more preflop.
Also, I would pot the flop. After villians river bet, I think the main thing you should be worried about is the flush. Villian's line looks strange, and I would probably fold here, but I dont think the call is terrible. |
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Re: Calling a river overbet?
Both responses so far suggest I should have raised more preflop. I always raise 3xBB when I raise. Why should I bet more preflop in the particular case? Thanks
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Re: Calling a river overbet?
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Both responses so far suggest I should have raised more preflop. I always raise 3xBB when I raise. Why should I bet more preflop in the particular case? Thanks [/ QUOTE ] Because you are in the small blind meaning you will be out of position for the rest of the hand |
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Re: Calling a river overbet?
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[ QUOTE ] Both responses so far suggest I should have raised more preflop. I always raise 3xBB when I raise. Why should I bet more preflop in the particular case? Thanks [/ QUOTE ] Because you are in the small blind meaning you will be out of position for the rest of the hand [/ QUOTE ] Also, there's one limper so you should add a bb for the limper. If you're on the button with aces and everyone limps, you don't still make it 3bb, do you? I don't hate the call on the river, because you've played the hand so weak. He could easily think he can get you off the hand with a scary board. but I'd fold. There's too many things you can't beat. Really the only thing you can beat here, it seems to me, is a total bluff. I think you just have to give him credit for making a gutsy play and move on. But playing the hand stronger preflop and on the flop might have saved you from this situtation to begin with. |
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Re: Calling a river overbet?
I don't know why betting 2/3 the pot on the flop and turn is weak play. Does a pot-sized bet make calls less of a mistake for people chasing? I realize these questions may seem elementary but please bear with me. Thanks.
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Re: Calling a river overbet?
Being more aggressive preflop when oop makes a ton of sense. Thanks I see alot of great advice on this forum but sometimes I need the reasons behind the decisions. When OOP should I continue with the increased aggresion on the other streets as well ?
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Re: Calling a river overbet?
At this level, I like to raise 4xBB +1BB per limper. Seems to work pretty well.
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Re: Calling a river overbet?
As others have said, your bets a little too small
Looks like a flush to me, hoping you have the straight |
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