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08-12-2005, 09:34 PM
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How do you deal with a suspected Poker Bot?
I'm playing .5/1 Limit at PP, and have run into what I'm 99% sure is a poker bot. The suspect is ALLWAYS on, no matter when I log on. He only ever plays 1 table, if that matters to Bots.
And in my Poker Tracker DB, has 19,500 Players, with an averge number of 50 hands/player. I have over 1300 hands on our suspect, with in only a few weeks. The good news is that he's down $56 so far. FYI, suspects stats are as follows: VP$IP: 14% PFR: 2.3% PFA:1.9% WTSD:25% W$SD:52% Check Raise: 0.31% And he's hidden from a buddy search. Based on this alone, I'd add this guy to my buddy list try to seat him to my left and try to steal his blinds, and respect the hell out of his raises. In other words, play him no different than any other rock.... I guess my bigger question is of a philosophical nature. I've seen threads here (none showed up after a search, however) regarding bots and the ethicalness(?) of them. It was pretty clear the Zoo is strongly opposed to them. Is it appropriate to start a separate thread or Data Base to tracked suspected Bots here (as a way of discouraging them)? Or do we just track them in our personal buddy lists? 
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08-12-2005, 09:40 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a suspected Poker Bot?
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he's hidden from a buddy search. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] He only ever plays 1 table, [/ QUOTE ] How do you know this? I wouldn't worry too much about it. It doesn't sound like you have any sort of evidence for your case, just a strong suspicion. If it's a bot, it's too tight, and I'd play it accordingly.
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08-12-2005, 10:49 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a suspected Poker Bot?
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The suspect is ALLWAYS on, no matter when I log on. [/ QUOTE ] He could be datamining. I don't think any of the "evidence" you've brought forth is indicative of a bot. Looks like he's just a rock who likes to leave his client open.
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08-12-2005, 11:06 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a suspected Poker Bot?
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[ QUOTE ] The suspect is ALLWAYS on, no matter when I log on. [/ QUOTE ] He could be datamining. I don't think any of the "evidence" you've brought forth is indicative of a bot. Looks like he's just a rock who likes to leave his client open. [/ QUOTE ] He's actively playing, not just Data Mining. Besides, if he were just Data Mining, he wouldn't show up on the table, as he'd be an observer. [ QUOTE ] I'm 99% sure you are crazy! [/ QUOTE ] Your point being? [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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#6
08-13-2005, 01:18 AM
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Re: How do you deal with a suspected Poker Bot?
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What the heck is a pokerbot? Sorry...I'm new to internet poker.... [/ QUOTE ] A poker playing program. I wish I were smart enough to make one myself. I think I could create a winner given the correct technical knowhow.
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#7
08-13-2005, 02:08 AM
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Re: How do you deal with a suspected Poker Bot?
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[ QUOTE ] What the heck is a pokerbot? Sorry...I'm new to internet poker.... [/ QUOTE ] A poker playing program. I wish I were smart enough to make one myself. I think I could create a winner given the correct technical knowhow. [/ QUOTE ] While I think it's technically possible to program a bot that could beat the low limts, why in the world would you bother? I figure, if you are smart enough to make a bot that can play well, you are smart enough to snag a high paying technical job with good benies and or play poker yourself for way more than a .5/1 bot can do. -D
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#8
08-13-2005, 05:06 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a suspected Poker Bot?
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[ QUOTE ] What the heck is a pokerbot? Sorry...I'm new to internet poker.... [/ QUOTE ] A poker playing program. I wish I were smart enough to make one myself. I think I could create a winner given the correct technical knowhow. [/ QUOTE ] I hate bots, I hate the programmers 5x as much.
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#9
08-13-2005, 06:40 PM
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Re: How do you deal with a suspected Poker Bot?
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A poker playing program. I wish I were smart enough to make one myself. I think I could create a winner given the correct technical knowhow. [/ QUOTE ] Probably not. They are excrutiatingly difficult. Counting outs is cake, but poker isn't about counting outs. There are a huge number of variables that we consider when playing poker, and codifying them is non-trivial. Throw in sample-size problem, short-term effects like tilt, and rake, and a bot that could do anything other than break even is far more than any simple codification of (say) SSHE. There are single sentances in that book that have serious implications for poker strategy. I think it's far easier to Get Rich Quick learning to beat 15-30.
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#10
08-13-2005, 02:20 AM
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Re: How do you deal with a suspected Poker Bot?
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[ QUOTE ] I'm 99% sure you are crazy! [/ QUOTE ] Your point being? [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Okay, OP is officially cool after that sweet response! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Good job. You aren't Mike Caro or something are you?
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