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Old 08-12-2005, 08:58 AM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default 9/18 AA Hand

Literally first hand at Commerce 9/18 table and only one previous read.

Preflop: I am BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
EP LAG limps, MP unknown limps, <font color="#cc3333">Lady SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc3333">I 3-bet</font>, the limpers call, <font color="#cc3333">SB caps</font>, we all call.

Flop: (16.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">I bet</font>, EP folds, <font color="#cc3333">MP raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc3333">I 3-bet</font>, MP calls, SB calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">I bet</font>, MP calls, SB calls.

River (15.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, sup?
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:10 AM
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Check-cry-call. Unless you can bet and fold to a raise.

Live poker is rigged.
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Old 08-12-2005, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 9/18 AA Hand

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Live poker is rigged.

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I agree, I was playing live the other day and someone called me to the river with 72o and the only way they could have done that is if they knew the what the next card could be.

I've talked to a lot of other people who have had the same experience as I have. I think someone should look into theses serious allegations. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: 9/18 AA Hand

Starts with a B, ends with a t.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: 9/18 AA Hand

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Starts with a B, ends with a t.

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After you bet, do you call in any of these scenarios?

1) MP raises, SB CC

2) MP raises, SB folds

3) MP folds, SB C/R

4) MP calls, SB C/R

My gut tells me to call in 2 and 3, fold 1 and 4.
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Old 08-12-2005, 10:00 AM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: 9/18 AA Hand

I like the idea of calling in situations #2 and #3, where you would be the only other player left in the pot.

Against unknowns, I don't see this winning a showdown in a raised three-way pot on the river often enough to be signifincantly profitable, but I'm wondering whether it might be worth calling for metagame reasons. People will be taking shots at you for the rest of the session if you start out with that kind of fold.
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Old 08-12-2005, 10:39 AM
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Starts with a B, ends with a t.

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Perfect.

FWIW, I am folding to a MP raise here though. I don't think he's gonna bluffraise the river with his KJ straight draw often enough for me to worry when I've 3-bet the flop, am holding the Ad with a flush on board and a paired board, unless he's a complete lagtard fish.

So yeah. I think it's an easy value bet. And I fold to a raise even though I don't like it.

Rob
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Old 08-12-2005, 12:51 PM
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Starts with a B, ends with a t.

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Boot? I mean, he had 12 outs to the nuts and an overpair and all, but booting on the table seems excessive and out-of-place, even for Commerce. Save that for the Vegas trip.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:48 AM
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Bet. Call. Vomit.

In that order.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:58 AM
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I like betting and calling a single raise but folding to a raise and an overcall.
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