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underpair against a pfr.
Oddly enough I don't have any stats on this guy.
UTG limps CO raises I call in the BB with 2h2c flop comes [ 3s, 5c, 7h ] MP bets I c/r UTG folds MP calls Turn Qh I bet get raised and call I hate giving credit to these guys in this spot River Qs check/call Anyone take issue with any streets? IMO there is only one borderline street. Comments welcome. |
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Re: underpair against a pfr.
turn is fold. He knows you wont give him credit for a random overcard that happened to hit the turn. Once you get to the river though you have to call.
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Re: underpair against a pfr.
Fold the flop.
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Re: underpair against a pfr.
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Fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ]Folding the flop is very bad, IMO. (in other words, explain yourself.) |
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Re: underpair against a pfr.
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[ QUOTE ] Fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ]Folding the flop is very bad, IMO. (in other words, explain yourself.) [/ QUOTE ] CO raises an UTG limper and we call with 22 for 1 BB. I get this. Very standard. Flop comes down rags and our plan is to c/r and get UTG to fold, correct? Is UTG really folding a raggy board like this with enough? The man did limp UTG, correct? I wouldn't exactly put him as the folding type. Also, MP either has us beat or has super live outs and our reverse implied odds for going to the river suck since we have no idea where we are at in this hand and can't show aggression unless we spike a 2. You give me this hand heads up and maybe I like it, but I don't think our hand is super hot 3-way. |
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Re: underpair against a pfr.
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Also, MP either has us beat or has super live outs and our reverse implied odds for going to the river suck since we have no idea where we are at in this hand and can't show aggression unless we spike a 2. [/ QUOTE ] Reverse implied odds do not apply if we have the best hand right? |
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Re: underpair against a pfr.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ]Folding the flop is very bad, IMO. (in other words, explain yourself.) [/ QUOTE ] CO raises an UTG limper and we call with 22 for 1 BB. I get this. Very standard. Flop comes down rags and our plan is to c/r and get UTG to fold, correct? Is UTG really folding a raggy board like this with enough? The man did limp UTG, correct? I wouldn't exactly put him as the folding type. Also, MP either has us beat or has super live outs and our reverse implied odds for going to the river suck since we have no idea where we are at in this hand and can't show aggression unless we spike a 2. You give me this hand heads up and maybe I like it, but I don't think our hand is super hot 3-way. [/ QUOTE ]I don't think UTG is calling two cold here with less than top pair, or 86, and I think our equity against CO is at least 50%. So folding would leave money behind. |
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Re: underpair against a pfr.
But my point is, we are putting in these 2 bets just to find out we may or may not be behind. Because we still don't know about MP until the turn, at least.
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Re: underpair against a pfr.
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Fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ] This is a fold I would make in the not-too-distant past, but I think you have to fight over these medium pots to survive long-term at 6max. Raising will make UTG fold a better hand some of the time, and make him fold a 6-outer a lot. And, since you can easily be ahead of CO, you gain a lot when the turn is a blank. Raising the flop will swing you from an underdog to a big favorite to win. |
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Re: underpair against a pfr.
I think i can find a fold on this turn unless villian is known to be trickey player
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