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Old 08-11-2005, 02:14 PM
SteamingFish SteamingFish is offline
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Default 45s in a huge, multiway pot

Very first hand at table, so no reads. I converted this by hand, so sorry for any mistakes. I'll reply with my own self-critique later.

Interpoker ($2/$4) 8 handed.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
<font color="red">UTG+2 raises</font>, 1 fold, Hero calls, MP3 calls, <font color="red">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="red">UTG+2 caps</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, BB calls.

Flop (14SB): 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, two folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn (13BB): 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River (15BB): 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 3-bets, Hero 4-bets, UTG+2 5-bets(caps?)</font>, Hero calls.
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: 45s in a huge, multiway pot

I'm folding PF.
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 45s in a huge, multiway pot

Nice suckout. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

From the pre-flop action, Villian looks to have AA or KK with a club.
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: 45s in a huge, multiway pot

Put in a few more raises if there was no cap.
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: 45s in a huge, multiway pot

1. This is a pre-flop fold in early position behind an EP raiser and no other callers. Cold-calling here is a huge error.

2. Flop raise is good.

3. I guess as played the turn is fine because you probably have to play for your 4 outs.

4. I guess I four bet the river because you'll probably be three-bet by the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] often enough it'll be profitable. Once you're five bet on the river I think you're winning this rarely.
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: 45s in a huge, multiway pot

Preflop: most concerned about calling the cap, though both posting and calling the first raise troubled me.

Flop: Yay, I isolated and am probably ahead of this guy's big pair. If he made the unlikely flush, it won't cost me much to call down and find out and this huge pot.

Turn: Crap. He probably has the flush now, but the pot is way too big to fold, and I'm getting the odds to chase.

River: Yeah, a boat! Your flush is no good, pal! ... Really, your flush is no good! ... Why is he still betting? Uh oh...

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Once you're five bet on the river I think you're winning this rarely.

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What does he have, jacks? He couldn't have jacks... Oh, god, he probably has jacks. &lt;censored&gt; He has jacks!! Results don't matter. Serenity now! No suck out here...

Not a bad beat post, I liked the hand from an educational standpoint, because I rarely have this many tough decisions in a single hand. I learned a lot. Thanks, all!
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 45s in a huge, multiway pot

This is how I would play it:
Preflop:
I fold, b/c it is for 2bets and there is no guarantee that the hand will be multi handed. Small suited connecters play best in multiway pots for cheap.

Flop:
I like the raise to get heads up. When he 3 bets I think either JJ for a set, or AA-QQ with a club or AK-AJ with a club, or a flopped flush with KQs+ (maybe too limited?)

Turn:
I call for FH draw.

River:
I call the 3 bet, and hope he doesnt have JJ.
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: 45s in a huge, multiway pot

guys, he posted. He probably shouldn't be posting in MP2 but once he does the preflop call is OK.
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:38 PM
SteamingFish SteamingFish is offline
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Default Re: 45s in a huge, multiway pot

From what positions do you guys usually post? At Interpoker at night, I can usually only join a table after being on a waiting list, so I'd feel bad joining then waiting 5-6 hands before playing. Usually somebody leaves when they're about to post the BB, so I wind up happily posting in late position. From middle position, I usually post, concerned about appearing tight-ass, like somebody mentioned. From early position, I wait. I think in SSHE, Miller calls it a "picayune" topic and suggests posting so as not to appear too tight, though that probably applies more to B&amp;M games. Yet another reason to learn 6-max, eh?
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: 45s in a huge, multiway pot

CO...MP3 at earliest.
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