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#1
08-08-2005, 05:22 PM
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Is this about right? J10s limp re-raise . . .
I love to limp reraise, and I want to start using the move more often, but don't want to narrow my hand range down to two or so hands to allow the good players at the table to play optimally vs. that range. So I decided to start LRR'ing w/ a few hands aside from the obvious ones.
I know that the LRR in general works billions of times better w/ deep stacks, but in terms of capped buyin games, does this seem about right? Pokerroom 10-20 NL. Full ring. Probably my third orbit at the table. My image is reasonable. I (~$2,200) limp UTG w/ J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], donk (~$1,400) to my left calls, unknown villain (~$1,800) calls in MP, LP (~$1,550) calls, button (good player, I respect his play and vice versa, I think) raises to $130, w/ ~$2,700 behind. Blinds fold, I make it $399. Donk folds, villain (ever so aptly named "Lord Rock") calls (!), LP folds, button thinks and folds. ($1,035) Flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I bet $1,000. Comments? 
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#2
08-08-2005, 05:31 PM
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Re: Is this about right? J10s limp re-raise . . .
Check the flop - Tight guys get nervous when you LRR and check the flop. Then play it like you have AA.
Or you could lead weak, begging for a call - If he raises, you have to come over the top.
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#4
08-08-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: Is this about right? J10s limp re-raise . . .
Opponent dependent, but I play it like AA. If there are no scary draws out, I just bet the whole way like I'm milking him - If he's a bad player, I play it more aggressively as we don't need AK calling us down, but the second you bet the flop as desperately as you did, a good player will know you don't like your hand.
Disclaimer is that in tough, much deeper games, you may want to make that flop bet as he knows, that you know, that he knows etc... In your hand just ask yourself "how would I play AA here?".
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#5
08-08-2005, 06:07 PM
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Re: Is this about right? J10s limp re-raise . . .
[ QUOTE ]
Disclaimer is that in tough, much deeper games, you may want to make that flop bet as he knows, that you know, that he knows etc... [/ QUOTE ] That's what I was going for. Only problem was the stacks weren't really deep enough--and villain probably wasn't tough enough--for this type of thinking to work . . . Edited to add: Funny thing is, when I made the bet, I actually thought that it had decent folding equity vs. AK, KK and everything else save for JJ, for the reason lapoker alluded to. In retrospect, I think that check-call flop, push turn would have been a much better line . . . Villains that limp and then overcall $380 reraises preflop probably don't get away from AK all that often on this flop, esp. w/ stack and pot sizes as they are . . .
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#7
08-08-2005, 05:38 PM
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Re: Is this about right? J10s limp re-raise . . .
Hopefully you fast play your sets and villian knows this.
Rocky villian probably has AA-QQ and maybe AKs in his range to call the LRR, since he doesn't have odds to try to flop a set. Villian probably puts you on AA-QQ and AKs. Villian folds KK and QQ here (6 combos), and pushes with AA, (3 combos) , and probably AKs (3 combos). Looks like you can fold half of his range, which should make this play profitable. If you get any action, you're done. I too have been trying to LRR more often, with limited success. The only times the hand ever really seems to go well is when I actually have the goods. The biggest problem I've had with the LRR is that you are basically forced to put in a big continuation bet, which hasn't been profitable for me, thus far.
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#8
08-08-2005, 05:45 PM
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Re: Is this about right? J10s limp re-raise . . .
I like the play. This LRR takes down the pot preflop a huge majority of the time in the games I play - and even if called, you can make a hand, or have a nice huge bluff (which probably has a good percentage of winning) vs. a medium pocket or high ace.
I don't know if I like it as much with a hand like JTs though. I'd rather have low cards or a pair, as a lot of hands that hit JTs will also hit whomever calls you - plus you can be put in some crappy situations... maybe I'm wrong with this.
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