Party policy on "unfair advantage" software

[Derek in NYC]

They have added a link with greater discussion. Here.

[illunious]

Looks like (personal DB/PT) HUDs, PT-type programs, odds calculators are officially OK. It's not clear whether they consider datamining programs to be bots, but it looks like they'd be ok.. " (“bots”) specifically created to play at a table in place". Glad they finally released some well written guidelines.

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We do not suspend/cancel/freeze a player account or confiscate any funds in that account, unless that player, having been first notified by us, continues to play on our site using the same offending software.

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This is a good thing. This means Ex-PokerEdge users (like me) that were warned can still use PV, GT+ or PokerAce HUDs, and if those are banned in the future, we'll get another warning. The warning email was unclear about this.. "If we detect that you continue to use such programs we will have no choice, but to bar you from our site...

[smartalecc5]

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Looks like (personal DB/PT) HUDs, PT-type programs, odds calculators are officially OK. It's not clear whether they consider datamining programs to be bots, but it looks like they'd be ok.. " (“bots”) specifically created to play at a table in place". Glad they finally released some well written guidelines.

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We do not suspend/cancel/freeze a player account or confiscate any funds in that account, unless that player, having been first notified by us, continues to play on our site using the same offending software.

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This is a good thing. This means Ex-PokerEdge users (like me) that were warned can still use PV, GT+ or PokerAce HUDs, and if those are banned in the future, we'll get another warning. The warning email was unclear about this.. "If we detect that you continue to use such programs we will have no choice, but to bar you from our site...

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thanks for the summary

[guppie]

I can personally testify that Party Poker does indeed seize funds from players who do not use illegal software. It happened to me.

I received the same warning as everyone else and immediately uninstalled Poker Edge and deleted any remaining files. I sent them an email advising them that I had done so. I also gave them a list of all software I was still using and requested they advise me if any of it was offensive.

I received no reply and a week later they closed my account and stole over $600 of my money. When I called they said I broke the rules but would not say what I did. I spoke to a supervisor who said they never got my email but if I would send a copy of it she would look into it.

I sent them a copy of the email and proof that it was sent on the date I claimed. That was a week ago and, big surprise, no response.

Party Poker is not telling the truth. They did seize my funds and I was not using any illegal software.

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We do not suspend/cancel/freeze a player account or confiscate any funds in that account, unless that player, having been first notified by us, continues to play on our site using the same offending software.


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I was not using any illegal software once PE was uninstalled and did not continue to use any illegal software. Nor did I use any software that fit their definition of offending software. I offered to give PP full admin rights to my harddrive so they could delete whatever it was that concerned them without even telling me what they had done. Of course, I got no response.

At the time my account was closed and funds stolen, I was using Poker Tracker. Period.

[maybedinero]

What skin were you using?

[guppie]

Party Poker skin.

Don't really care if anyone believes me or not. No skin off my nose. But it is the truth and I have nothing to gain by saying so.

I just wish someone had warned me like I'm warning people now. I would have stopped playing on PP long ago.

[teddyFBI]

I don't believe you.

[jba]

I am impressed by this. It's actually clear what the rules are now.

[OrcaDK]

Very cool to get this issue explained in further detail by Party. As far as i can understand, my MTH should also be allowed, according to their terms.

[fish43]

It would be quite simple to completely remove the advantage of data mining by replacing the names of opponents at the table and in the hand histories with generic "seat n" labels.