Free showdown raise?

krishanleong · #1 08-07-2005, 07:59 PM

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises

Villian is 44/7/1.4/36 over 122. No reads on what a donk bet means.

Krishan

wrto4556 · #2 08-07-2005, 08:26 PM

i dont like this one. Your hand doesnt have much showdown value.

I would probably fold the flop.

dave44 · #3 08-08-2005, 12:56 AM

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i dont like this one. Your hand doesnt have much showdown value.

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His ace high hand has plenty of showdown value heads up.

wrto4556 · #4 08-08-2005, 01:00 AM

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i dont like this one. Your hand doesnt have much showdown value.

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His ace high hand has plenty of showdown value heads up.

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not on this board.

dave44 · #5 08-08-2005, 01:02 AM

Ax, Kx, Qx of spades don't play the hand like this sometimes?

wrto4556 · #6 08-08-2005, 01:03 AM

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Ax, Kx, Qx of spades don't play the hand like this sometimes?

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You pay off when you are beat because you have little ways to improve. But the times you're ahead, you get drawn out on a [censored] ton.

its not worth it.

tizim · #7 08-07-2005, 08:36 PM

The pot's small, and even if you're currently ahead, he's likely a favorite against you or has many scare cards he can use to push you off A-high. I fold the flop.

ctv1116 · #8 08-07-2005, 09:46 PM

could someone explain the rationale of this? If you're going for a free showdown, just call twice and it costs you the same. Since you don't plan on value betting the river (i guess unless you hit a non spade ace or jack), there's no point in raising the turn, because you might get 3 bet or donkbet on the river.

wackjob · #9 08-07-2005, 10:27 PM

I make this play alot in B&M. If I'm 3bet on the turn, I fold. If I'm bet into on the river w/o inproving I fold. If I catch on the river, I'm betting. I don't use it alot, but if I think there is a chance the other guy is going to fold to my turn raise, I will do it.

wheelz · #10 08-07-2005, 10:39 PM

Look at the board though, I think the chances of him folding to the turn raise are slim to none