KK on the Button - What's the Play?

[Hooked on Fish]

Party Poker $215 Sunday Tournament.

Average Stack: $11,000
Largest Stack: $60,000
My Stack: $22,000
Blinds: 500/1000
280 out of 2,000 or so left - In the money starts at 220

I have KK on the button. I've been moved fairly recently so I don't have reads on anyone at the table.

EMP raises to 4,000, everyone folds to me. I call.

Flop comes 7/4/3 rainblow. EMP bets 4,000, what's my play from here?

Thanks

[Hal 2000]

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Party Poker $215 Sunday Tournament.

Average Stack: $11,000
Largest Stack: $60,000
My Stack: $22,000
Blinds: 500/1000
280 out of 2,000 or so left - In the money starts at 220

I have KK on the button. I've been moved fairly recently so I don't have reads on anyone at the table.

EMP raises to 4,000, everyone folds to me. I call.

Flop comes 7/4/3 rainblow. EMP bets 4,000, what's my play from here?

Thanks

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What was villian's stack?
Why no preflop re-raise?

Given the action, easy push...

[Hooked on Fish]

I forgot to state that the villain's stack size was about $23,000.

I did not raise pre-flop because I wanted to see if an Ace hit the flop.

[Lloyd]

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I forgot to state that the villain's stack size was about $23,000.

I did not raise pre-flop because I wanted to see if an Ace hit the flop.

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That's a horrible reason, IMHO, to not raise pre-flop. Had your answer been I want to trap my opponent then that's a decent answer. But in fear of an Ace - not good.

Ace hits. He bets. You fold. He could have QQ-88 easily. If you don't understand this you're much better off just raising or pushing pre-flop.

[Hooked on Fish]

Lloyd, thanks for the response. If I re-raise pre-flop to, say, $8,000 and villain re-raises me all-in, then what would you do?

Thanks

[Lloyd]

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Lloyd, thanks for the response. If I re-raise pre-flop to, say, $8,000 and villain re-raises me all-in, then what would you do?

Thanks

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You call. Quickly. There are too many hands that would push there that you are ahead of. If you never fold KK pre-flop you will be far ahead then those times you're caught by AA.

[Hal 2000]

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Lloyd, thanks for the response. If I re-raise pre-flop to, say, $8,000 and villain re-raises me all-in, then what would you do?

Thanks

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If you're reraising pre-flop, first you're pretty much committing yourself to play for all your chips, so just push. Second, a small re-raise let's him get away easy preflop. Do you want that if he's got 88-JJ, AQ, and might easily call your push?

[blockafor]

I think you trapped him well by not raising pre-flop. On the flop, I'd min-raise to 8K. It's called the "I think you have sh*t raise". This kind of raise makes people do strange things and gives you a good chance to stack him where he might fold to a larger raise here or he might fold if you just call and you bet on the turn.

[Lloyd]

I'd go ahead and push. If he has an overpair he'll call you and pay you off unless he has AA in which case oh well. If he has a hand like AQ or AJ he'll check fold the turn unless he hits one of his outs, half of which you definitely don't want to see. So it will be tough to trap him for the rest of his chips unless he has a hand he'll go ahead and call a push with anyway.

[jgunnip]

What's villian's stack? That would affect my play before and on the flop. You also need to take into consideration the stacks in the blinds.

Anyway, I'm reraising to 10000 preflop.