Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Micro-Limits
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:19 AM
2+2 Junkie 2+2 Junkie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 245
Default Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

I have no reads on the villian here. This is my third or fourth hand at the table, and I just had an AA chopped by a board straight. Therefore, I wanted to know if I played this hand correctly, or are there elements of tilt here....

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?????

Am I being check raised here? What hands would 4 bet and check to me? <font color="black"> </font>
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:22 AM
imported_The Vibesman imported_The Vibesman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Smokin\' With Bacall
Posts: 895
Default Re: Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

*sigh*...the limp-raiser. I hate this animal.

Check the flop. He either thinks he's tricky or could be a raise-monkey. I tend to put limp-raisers on AA right off the bat. But I also like to see.

Interested to see what others think.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-05-2005, 03:06 PM
cfjr2 cfjr2 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 99
Default Re: Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

From UTG I sometimes limp AA in order to not scare off the entire field. In the best case it is raised from late position or a blind and I can re-raise and thin the field while capturing the bets made first time around the table.

My best was from UTG I called 5 bets, BB raised, I re-raised, 3 or 4 folds (nice dead $), call, BB caps.

I wouldn't do this all the time but in some situations it works nice.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:28 AM
hicherbie hicherbie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In the nutstand.
Posts: 418
Default Re: Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

hes not folding to a bet, and you have ace high. take the free card.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:34 AM
chaz64 chaz64 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 122
Default Re: Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

Hero checks.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:37 AM
Marquis Marquis is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 177
Default Re: Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

[ QUOTE ]
hes not folding to a bet, and you have ace high. take the free card.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have the same inclination. You aren't ahead of anything reasonable.

I think we need to consider the times that he's setting you up for the turn checkraise and a bet here will let you check the turn behind.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:33 AM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 616
Default Re: Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

Bet the flop, take the free river instead. That's worth more to you.

(We can tell you bet because your text is red. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:42 AM
Absolution Absolution is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 39
Default Re: Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

I'm confused, how are you going to get a free card on the turn out of that?

He checks, you bet, he CR, you call.

He bets turn.

I don't see him checking the turn very often.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-05-2005, 10:46 AM
Marquis Marquis is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 177
Default Re: Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

[ QUOTE ]
I'm confused, how are you going to get a free card on the turn out of that?

He checks, you bet, he CR, you call.

He bets turn.

I don't see him checking the turn very often.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's when he smooooooth calls the flop and checks the turn.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-05-2005, 11:15 AM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 616
Default Re: Flop decision w/ AKs, play along

[ QUOTE ]
I'm confused, how are you going to get a free card on the turn out of that?

[/ QUOTE ]

The reason is that we capped preflop and he checked the flop. This shows weakness.

I can't see why everyone is so quick to assume we're going to get check-raised here. He couldn't have known we'd cap when he 3-bet PF, so maybe he's worried about our hand. If he thinks his big hand is better than our big hand, why doesn't he just bet? We already showed that we like our hand.

I think this might be "RFPS" - reverse fancy play syndrome (oo, can I coin a new phrase? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) Why do we assume an unknown villain is some sort of super tricky guy? It could very well be he hated us raising him on the flop, he reraised us to show who was boss or to bluff us, and then realised what a tard he was when we capped it.

This is Party .5/1. People do this crap regularly. The pot is big, we need to give ourselves the best chance of winning it, not run into a corner and check behind at the first sign of trouble. He's probably not going to fold, but we can give ourselves the chance to see two cards for the price of one, which gives us the best chance for winning the pot at the best price.

If he check-raises, call and fold the turn UI. You've spent only 1 more SB. If he donkbets the turn, well, that's the way it goes - this is about maximising your chances of taking the pot, not about coming up with a line that is 100% guaranteed to work - which is quite impossible.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.