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#1
08-04-2005, 01:34 PM
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Shorthanded Play Win Rates for Advanced/ Good players
For those of you who make a killing playing limit poker especially online...
What is the most profitable # of players at the table? True or false The better players seek short handed/heads up games.... How bout win rates... At any given table a good limit players average win rate w/ 2 or 3 players =____BB/hr w/ 4 to 6 players =____BB/hr w/ 7 to 10 players=____BB/hr The best player wins ___% time heads up in a freeze out Thanks 
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#6
08-04-2005, 04:09 PM
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Re: Shorthanded Play Win Rates for Advanced/ Good players
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the only people who care about winrates are the people who will never achieve those winrates. [/ QUOTE ] And those that want to know what is a realistic goal. I think this question is fine.
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#7
08-04-2005, 04:30 PM
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Re: Shorthanded Play Win Rates for Advanced/ Good players
You can't set "goals" for winrate. It's an excercise in futility. You can't win 3bb/100 just because you want all. All you can do is win as much as you can. And you should always be trying to win more.
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#8
08-04-2005, 04:35 PM
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Re: Shorthanded Play Win Rates for Advanced/ Good players
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You can't set "goals" for winrate. It's an excercise in futility. You can't win 3bb/100 just because you want all. All you can do is win as much as you can. And you should always be trying to win more. [/ QUOTE ] OK "goals" was probably the wrong word (although I think I even disagree with you on this point). Really what I'm saying is that there are a number of reasons why I'd like to know winrates of the best players. For instance, I'd like to know what the winrates of NL players are to determine whether I should learn that game. I think its generally right to want to know whats reaslistically achievable.
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#9
08-04-2005, 05:05 PM
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Re: Shorthanded Play Win Rates for Advanced/ Good players
Why does it matter what the best players win? What makes you assume that when you play NL you are going to be one of the best players? Why only assume that you can be a mediocre player? All that matters is what YOU win. Everyone I know who has played professionally or seriously semi-pro (mid-high limit players who make 100k+) for a long time doesn't talk about win rates. They talk about good games they think they have the biggest advantage in, good ways to play hands, and good reads. Two numbers matter to them: money at the beginning of the year and money at the end of the year. This whole BB/100 infatuation is a construction of 8-tabling 2/4 players who want poker to be a set of rules they memorize as opposed to a dynamic, constantly changing game. Sure, eventually you get an idea of how much you can win in certain situations, and what your best situations are. However, it varies so much from person to person, and even from day to day, that constantly talking about it is just trying to oversimplify poker because not knowing what will happen tomorrow is scary. That's why it's gambling, and if you can't deal with that, then you will never be a great player.
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#10
08-04-2005, 04:01 PM
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Re: Shorthanded Play Win Rates for Advanced/ Good players
Most players here view their winnings in terms of BB/100 hands played, and not to many seem to play heads up freeze outs (outside of HULA of course).
The answer to your question is - expert players can win a shitload- very good players quite a lot, good players a pretty good. Just become an expert and the cash will follow.
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