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KQ, turn interesting to anyone else?
I thought it was.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: BigEndian is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BigEndian raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BigEndian checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BigEndian calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BigEndian checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BigEndian... - Jim |
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Re: KQ, turn interesting to anyone else?
I think you're just barely behind enough to sneak away from this. You're getting 8.5:1 immediate with some pretty solid implied odds, but you're looking at a very tainted T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and maybe even the T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], which pretty much kill your groove.
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Re: KQ, turn interesting to anyone else?
I'd almost always bet that flop. Turn's a fold.
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Re: KQ, turn interesting to anyone else?
Why would you bet this flop? Who are you folding?
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Re: KQ, turn interesting to anyone else?
2 overs + a gutshot, plus I raised pre-flop. I usually need a strong reason *not* to follow up with a flop bet after raising pre-flop. I don't see one here. (I could be wrong though cuz I really might suck).
As for who I'm folding... Is there a read I'm missing? |
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Re: KQ, turn interesting to anyone else?
I think betting this incredibly draw-heavy flop which could have hit a number of people is just begging to get raised while not significantly improving your chances to win the hand.
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Re: KQ, turn interesting to anyone else?
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I think betting this incredibly draw-heavy flop which could have hit a number of people is just begging to get raised while not significantly improving your chances to win the hand. - Jim [/ QUOTE ] I think you're probably right. |
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Re: KQ, turn interesting to anyone else?
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2 overs + a gutshot, plus I raised pre-flop. I usually need a strong reason *not* to follow up with a flop bet after raising pre-flop. I don't see one here. (I could be wrong though cuz I really might suck). As for who I'm folding... Is there a read I'm missing? [/ QUOTE ] I don't play 10/20, but are these players bad enough to CC with junk that didn't give ONE of THREE some kind of draw/piece of this board? You have to think that OC's are tainted and thus only 4 are still kosher here. Not to mention that either them could complete a straight for someone. |
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Re: KQ, turn interesting to anyone else?
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I thought it was. Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: BigEndian is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BigEndian raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BigEndian checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BigEndian calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BigEndian checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BigEndian... - Jim [/ QUOTE ] -=blind response=- VERY interesting -- how many outs do we have now? Minimum of 3 tens in which case we have to fold the Turn (6% equity for river w/ 10.5% pot-equity). At most, we have 7 in which case we are correct to call (14% equity for river w/ 10.5% equity on our call). Problem here though is that I don't think we're good w/ a merea K or Q falling on the river. Makes things even uglier. CO either has a monster OESD and/or flush draw (I don't know if people will cc w/ QTs in this position... probably not?) - KJs, AJs. Button also looks to be on the draw... I don't see how we can safely give ourselves anything but 3 Tens here. I have zero confidence in my read on CO -- CC'd PreFlop and bets out against your weakness... ATs or AJs? I think specifically AJs more often than not... he didn't slow down to the A even though you raised PF but then again I wouldn't think you had an A here either since you PFR would've been a strong one... out of position, though, against 3 others I could see this maybe w/ a strong, black AX. |
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