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Old 08-03-2005, 01:53 PM
ChoicestHops ChoicestHops is offline
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Default Do you gamble here?

Instead of using the hand history I will keep it simple.

Blinds are 25/50 at a table of 10, my stack is 600 and I raise QQ to 200 in MP. I get 2 callers.

Flop is AJJ rainbow and the pot is 600. My stack is 300 here. Do I all-in or play it weak tight because of the ace. I chose to push because if I check here and someone bets into me whether they have the ace or not and I fold my stack is at 300 and Im effectively cripped.

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Old 08-03-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

Given your reasoning, shouldn't you simply have open pushed? It makes all your decisions easier and doesn't leave you concerned about being cripped.

Also, if you are going all-in why not check and let them put some of their chips in. That way if they had a lower pair, you've got their chips and if you're beat, well... you're still toast.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

You are most likely right. I wanted some action with my ladies here however and wanted to see if any sub-par hands wanted to play but certainly an AK would have called an open push at level 3 here.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

How did your stack go from 600 to 300 after a raise to 200?

I'd raise to 150 pre-flop. With two callers and that flop, I'm check folding to significant action. Too likely with multiple opponents that one of them has an ace. Save your 400, you can still come back.

BTW, against one opponent, I might check / call an all-in. Pushing accomplishes nothing (other than keep a K from coming on the turn). Any ace would call. Against an aggressive opponent (if the pot was heads up), I'd decide whether I want to commit more chips to the pot. If so, check - call a push. The times that you have the best hand, you will have induced a bluff. Open pushing is the classic example of only getting called by hands that beat you.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

You are most likely right. I wanted some action with my ladies here however and wanted to see if any sub-par hands wanted to play but certainly an AK would have called an open push at level 3 here.

Having gone all-in is better than betting 1/3 of your stack then check/mucking if an Ace flops.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

i cant believe how bad of an understanding you have of the game, ill leave it at that.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

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i cant believe how bad of an understanding you have of the game, ill leave it at that.

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did you disagree with something I said?
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

no it was in reference to OP, although openpushing is not nearly the best line here.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

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no it was in reference to OP, although openpushing is not nearly the best line here.

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What is the Hero going to do when someone goes all-in over the top of him?
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:35 PM
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when?
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