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I lost this hand, villian said a bunch of stuff basically saying he was going to not play and watch me go on tilt, yada yada. I dont really go on tilt from hands like this, but I wanted to use what he was saying. So 2-3 hands later I played an OESD pretty fast and put in a decent river sized bluff when villian checked turn. Does anyone ever make plays like this when their image is bad? Im not just talking about pf related pushes but more large raises post.
Here is the hand that got me (first big one at this level - line standard?) Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter SB ($166) BB ($149.75) UTG ($57.10) MP ($138.70) CO ($18) Hero ($82) Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50. UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $3, SB (poster) calls $2.50, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2. Flop: ($15) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4. Turn: ($27) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $15</font>, CO calls $11 (All-In), Hero calls $75 (All-In), SB calls $60. River: ($188) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $188 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> SB has Jc Th (full house, tens full of jacks). CO has Qh Qd (full house, queens full of tens). Hero has Ks Ac (straight, ace high). Outcome: SB wins $128. CO wins $60. </font> |
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Just to make it clear, I didnt actually tilt (fumed a little), but it didnt affect my play in an undesirable way
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I think frankly, the river call is awful. Do you really think your hand is good on a 3-flush, paired board?
As for your question about your play several hands later, I dont think bluffing the river when you are presumed to be "on tilt" is the situation you are looking for. You generally want to have a monster that someone will pay off. EDIT: Feck, I misread the action. My apologies. I still dont think this was played well. But not quite as bad as it looked. The answer to question 2 still applies. |
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Allin on turn, good reading.
I figured that would be standard response about bluffing. Have to see though. And to clarify, the board was the kind of board I would have liked for villian acting passive and me betting aggressive |
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I might not have made this flop call personally, but I suppose it's okay with ~10 outs w/ 4 to the nuts getting 4.75-1. My concern is that you could be reverse dominated by AQ or KQ and that spiking one of your overcard outs on the turn could be expensive, even though your immediate pot odds are good. Being in position does lessen these concerns, of course.
Bluffing or semi bluffing aggressively after you lose a big hand like this is probably not a good idea. Other than that, bad luck man. I'm sorry this happened to you. I know it must be incredibly frustrating. |
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This hand is fine, why don't you post the bluff hand?
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for the record, this is a pretty standard beat. get used to these...(i know they suck)
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line standard? [/ QUOTE ] getting all your money in with the nuts on the turn is a pretty standard play at all levels. you should be very happy with it. |
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I think the first play that you want to pickup is reraising this hand preflop. Cutoff makes a routine raise(I realize CO had QQ this time, but you're playing for long-term results). When he makes this raise, I would probably reraise to $7-$9. Second off, this flop is miserable for you as there's no doubt that 3-handed you're a major dog. If I were you I would fold to this flop as you only have 3 real solid outs. There's ~7.5% chance you turn your straight without putting a flush on the board. You're slightly better than 12-to-1 to turn your miracle gutshot without flushing the board...
Well I stand corrected, you're getting 4.75-to-1 to call the flop. I think this call can only be made if you have the discipline to get away from the hand on the turn, even if you hit an Ace or King and being able to play a small pot if the J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turns. Like the previous poster said... you got all your money in the pot with the best of it, but 3-handed on a draw heavy board like this, you're gonna have to suck it up and remember you're playing smart long-run poker. Tough loss, looks like under the circumstances it was the best possible line. |
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Do beats like this happen to a lot of people when they move up? I moved up and got stacked off on the first hand when I hit a set on the flop with 88 after the pot was raised 6XBB pre-flop. The flop came 568r, I pushed, got called by 79. strange business, this poker!
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