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K9s BB - kill me
Absolute 2/4, 3 or 4 people to a flop type of table. CO is pretty aggressive, MP2 is normal/unknown.
MP2 limps, CO limps, SB folds, Hero checks with K9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hero checks, MP2 bets, CO calls, Hero calls Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Hero checks, MP2 checks (darn it!), CO checks (darn again) River:2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] puke Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks My brilliant plan to checkraise the field on the turn totally failed. Flop aggressor was supposed to keep betting and if he didn't the aggressive CO should have bet and I could blow MP2 off his flush draw. Ugly river, maybe should have bet and folded to a raise, but at the time I thought someone (CO) might bluff the flush card and I could call and see showdown for the same price. No way MP2 checks a flush there. Thoughts? |
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Re: K9s BB - kill me
The river check is horribly weak.
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Re: K9s BB - kill me
ALL of the checks are horribly weak. Just bet out on the flop and dont stop betting or raising.
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Re: K9s BB - kill me
All checks are weak, even if I'm planning to checkraise? Doesn't make sense to me. Flop smoothcall was to set up turn checkraise.
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Re: K9s BB - kill me
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All checks are weak, even if I'm planning to checkraise? Doesn't make sense to me. Flop smoothcall was to set up turn checkraise. [/ QUOTE ] As an alternate line, you could staple a piece of paper to your forehead that says "HEY! I FLOPPED TRIPS! WATCH ME SLOWPLAY!" Betting into aggressive opposition with near-lock hands is surprisingly deceptive. |
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Re: K9s BB - kill me
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Betting into aggressive opposition with near-lock hands is surprisingly deceptive. [/ QUOTE ] True, and that's my line most of the time, if not nearly all the time. However, I doubt I'm getting raised on the turn if I bet out, but there's a good chance one of the other two will bet. Is this play flat-out bad to pull every now and then? |
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Re: K9s BB - kill me
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Betting into aggressive opposition with near-lock hands is surprisingly deceptive. [/ QUOTE ] Fastplay is the new slowplay. |
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Re: K9s BB - kill me
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[ QUOTE ] All checks are weak, even if I'm planning to checkraise? Doesn't make sense to me. Flop smoothcall was to set up turn checkraise. [/ QUOTE ] As an alternate line, you could staple a piece of paper to your forehead that says "HEY! I FLOPPED TRIPS! WATCH ME SLOWPLAY!" Betting into aggressive opposition with near-lock hands is surprisingly deceptive. [/ QUOTE ] no one thinks you are betting out w/ a 9 if they spike a pair, they will probably raise you |
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Re: K9s BB - kill me
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] All checks are weak, even if I'm planning to checkraise? Doesn't make sense to me. Flop smoothcall was to set up turn checkraise. [/ QUOTE ] As an alternate line, you could staple a piece of paper to your forehead that says "HEY! I FLOPPED TRIPS! WATCH ME SLOWPLAY!" Betting into aggressive opposition with near-lock hands is surprisingly deceptive. [/ QUOTE ] Though this would never pass as legitimate poker scholarship, I will add an anecdote to give you an idea how deceptive betting out trips can be (and it's funny because all these players play so bad): Foxwoods 20/40. The EP players is an occassionally decent but tight weak player. The SB is a crazy old dude who oscillates between laggishness and tight-weakness with no seeming pattern. Three limpers around to the SB who raises, called around. Flop comes: Flop: J J 6 SB bets, EP player raises, folded around to SB who calls. Turn: 8 SB checks, EP bets, SB calls. River: A SB bets, EP starts crying like a small girl child about how the dealer put up a two-outer, and then mucks a J face up, convinvced SB had Aces. SB flashes AK. Much discussion then began around the table about the hand, because it was such a display of tremendous bitchiness by the EP player. EP could not possibly get it through his head as to why SB would continue to call all the way with AK. When asked, SB's only reply was that: "How could he have a J on that board? Why would he bet a J? I figured he had a pocket pair." So the result of the play was the EP actually made an excellent deceptive fast-play on the flop, which he then disastrously misplayed and allowed SB to take the pot. SB's absolute determination that EP could never possibly have trips because he raised the flop is the moral of the story though. That is all. |
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Re: K9s BB - kill me
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All checks are weak, even if I'm planning to checkraise? Doesn't make sense to me. Flop smoothcall was to set up turn checkraise. [/ QUOTE ] Flop smoothcall turn checkraises give away your hand. Also, what hand didn't raise preflop that bets this flop and then bets this turn after being called twice on the flop? Bet. Someone might even raise which would make 3-betting fun and possible. |
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