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Lets talk about sets baby
Canterbury 15/30 (9 handed)
CO here is a dick. He also plays loose (limps K4s in EP). Doesn't do anything insane postflop. SB here is a nice guy but a nut. VPIP has to be near 80 and will get very aggressive with draws and TP. folds to MP who limps, CO limps, I limp 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the button, SB calls, BB checks. Flop (5 players) (5 SB): J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] checks, to CO who bets, I call, SB check/raises, BB and MP fold, CO 3-bets, I.....hit the gas now or on the turn? EDIT: I should mention that CO has 4 bets in front of him at the start of this hand. He's also a dick. |
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Re: Lets talk about sets baby
on the turn.. if you 4 bet the flop they will check to you on the turn and your hand is pretty transparent
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Re: Lets talk about sets baby
DO NOT FOURBET HERE!
i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible. |
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Re: Lets talk about sets baby
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DO NOT FOURBET HERE! i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't a cold-call just as scary, or even scarier? |
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Re: Lets talk about sets baby
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[ QUOTE ] DO NOT FOURBET HERE! i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't a cold-call just as scary, or even scarier? [/ QUOTE ]HELL NO. |
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Re: Lets talk about sets baby
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] DO NOT FOURBET HERE! i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't a cold-call just as scary, or even scarier? [/ QUOTE ]HELL NO. [/ QUOTE ] Oh. IF I'm in the hand and I see me cold call on the flop and then raise the turn, I am scared. Also, who is to say that if I 4-bet it won't get capped for me, as CO clearly likes his hand. |
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[ QUOTE ] DO NOT FOURBET HERE! i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't a cold-call just as scary, or even scarier? [/ QUOTE ] this is the canterbury. These people, in general, lack the capacity to think. |
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Re: Lets talk about sets baby
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[ QUOTE ] DO NOT FOURBET HERE! i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't a cold-call just as scary, or even scarier? [/ QUOTE ] What do the other players at the table think of you? Do you play with them often enough for them to notice you're "wake-up" if you 4-bet? Are they smart enough to key in on a cold-call like you would be? This seems like a matter of interupting the present action happening around you or letting them build the pot for you. They obviously aren't folding so why not let them keep pumping it up for you? I see the dilemma though: will CO slow down now (i.e. no 4-bet)... It seems like you'll be able to make up plenty of bets on the T and R if he does slow down now, so calling looks ok to me (but I probably suck at poker). My opinion changes, though, depending on how you answer the questions above. |
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DO NOT FOURBET HERE! i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Why? If he 4-bets here, no one if folding. They'll check to him on the turn, but so what. If he just calls, they'll check to the CO, who'll bet, and then Bob will raise and the field will be facing two big bets. I'd rather face them with one big bet, especially since the flop is drawless. |
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Re: Lets talk about sets baby
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[ QUOTE ] DO NOT FOURBET HERE! i see ppl do this all the time... truly horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Why? If he 4-bets here, no one if folding. They'll check to him on the turn, but so what. If he just calls, they'll check to the CO, who'll bet, and then Bob will raise and the field will be facing two big bets. I'd rather face them with one big bet, especially since the flop is drawless. [/ QUOTE ] yeah it's big now so you've gotta wait for the turn to apply some real pressure on the draws. A cap on the flop is terrible unless you're 100% certain someone will bet their TP on the turn. |
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