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QJ--I know I\'m beat
I think I misplayed this like no other. I hate situations like this where I have initiative OOP, but I know I'm beat.
BB is a completely nuts maniac; MP is a 30/10 and reasonably aggressive postflop. Check/call the turn, check/fold the river? Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls. Flop: (9.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, BB calls. Turn: (7.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, BB folds. River: (9.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls. Final Pot: 11.70 BB |
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Re: QJ--I know I\'m beat
Folding preflop would by my preference, but let's not start another QJo preflop debate.
Flop looks fine. Turn looks fine. River is not a good value bet. What is villian going to pay off with here? He is coldcalling on the flop with an Ace or flush draw. At the very worst he has a gutshot on this flop and KQ just made it. I think check-folding is the play here, followed by check-calling. |
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Re: QJ--I know I\'m beat
I agree the river is terrible.
But, the more I think about the turn, the more I hate it. Any hand MP 3-bets preflop and calls 2 cold on the flop has me beat and probably isn't going anywhere. Plus, my 2pair/trip outs are so tainted that I can't see a check-fold being that bad. Is a turn check-fold too weak? |
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Re: QJ--I know I\'m beat
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Folding preflop would by my preference, but let's not start another QJo preflop debate. [/ QUOTE ] I like open raising with QJo, since it's just so darn good. It looks like MP has Ax or QQ-KK, and you're pretty much effed. Oh well. |
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Re: QJ--I know I\'m beat
What's the purpose of raising the flop here? Are you trying to make MP fold KK or QQ? You're behind a lot or just making a hand that you wouldn't mind calling fold.
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Re: QJ--I know I\'m beat
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What's the purpose of raising the flop here? Are you trying to make MP fold KK or QQ? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. It's probably not worth the 2 SB's though. I think calling and seeing what MP does is a better idea. |
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Re: QJ--I know I\'m beat
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tizim is a completely nuts maniac [/ QUOTE ] Fold preflop. Call the flop and fold the turn UI. |
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