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Old 07-27-2005, 12:11 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Bubble AK hand

This is one of those hands that can get us into trouble.

This is from a non-party site. Starting stacks are t1000. We're down to four. Normal payout.

Blinds (100/200)

UTG ~ t1765
Button ~ t575
Hero ~ t2060
BB ~ t5600

Folded to Hero with AKo. What's your line here?
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:14 AM
CrazyPsycho CrazyPsycho is offline
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Default Re: Bubble AK hand

I'm pushing it if BB is loose. I'd 2.5xBB if BB is tight.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:28 AM
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I can't see 2.5xBB saying anything but please rob me.

push or fold
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: Bubble AK hand

My instinct says push.

Isn't this something that SNGPT can handle?
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Bubble AK hand

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My instinct says push.

Isn't this something that SNGPT can handle?

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SGA says:

Tight calling range: +1.2%
Aggressive Calling range: +0.8%
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:27 AM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
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Default Re: Bubble AK hand

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[ QUOTE ]
My instinct says push.

Isn't this something that SNGPT can handle?

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SGA says:

Tight calling range: +1.2%
Aggressive Calling range: +0.8%

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So, it seems like an easy push, unless you are considering another option (completing, or raising smaller than all your chips.)

Both other options are very player dependant.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: Bubble AK hand

I push and I don't even think about it.
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:32 AM
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I push and I don't even think about it.

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edit: I push and am practically begging for the BB to 'look me up.'
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: Bubble AK hand

morgan you arent begging for the BB to look you up. If they have something like QJo Im pretty sure being called is -EV for you and if they have 22 it's huge -EV. You don't want action with AKo against the bigstack when there are two shortstacks (with one of them being tiny). You are more than happy to win the blinds.

btw this is a very important concept. It's a disaster if you are called by the BB here.
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Old 07-27-2005, 02:19 AM
morgan180 morgan180 is offline
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curtains - thank you for pointing this out - i just ran it through icm (b/c i'm stubborn) and you are right, even for a hand like QJ folding this PF is better than getting this called.

thanks - my first ICM experience - a positive eye opener. ( i hope i did this right)

for reference:

1) you fold
UTG 1765
Button 575
Hero 2060
BB 5900
26.37% of prize pool

2) you push and lose
UTG 1765
Button 575
Hero 0
BB 8960
0% of prize pool

3) you push and don’t get called
UTG 1765
Button 575
Hero 2360
BB 5600
27.82% of prize pool

4) you push and get called and win
UTG 1765
Button 575
Hero 4420
BB 3540
35.42% of prize pool

5) you push get called and split
UTG 1765
Button 575
Hero 2210
BB 5750
27.12% of prize pool

If BB is calling with something like QJo AKo is

---------equity (%)-----win (%)---tie (%)
Hand 1: 64.2962 % 64.10% 00.19% { AcKd }

Hand 2: 35.7038 % 35.51% 00.19% { QhJs }


Win: .641
Lose: .3551
Tie: .0019

.3542*.641 + 0*.3551 + 27.12*.0019 = .227 + 0 + .0005

22.75% of prize pool
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