London Police screwed up big time

Morpheus · #1 07-23-2005, 11:09 PM

Check this out. I just saw this.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...in_underground

What should we do about this ? Police killed an innocent man.
Someone needs to be blamed. Should we put the police on trial now or should we just walk into the policeman's house and shoot him on sight like he did that man. What a bunch of idiots. BTW, I hate police. Police shot that man because they are afraid that people will find out that police are basically useless against bombing attacks. They can't stand for people to find out. People will be asking for their guns next. We can't have armed citizens walking the street so we kill anyone of ethnicity on sight. Yay !

BTW, they have a shoot to kill policy over there now. If you look like a terrorist, you just might die in london sometime soon. I declare terrorists the winner. They basically have gotten what they wanted. England is becoming communist.

ClaytonN · #2 07-23-2005, 11:13 PM

Meh, dunno yet. If you have multiple police chasing you with guns and you decide to run away or provoke them, then you deserve to be shot at given the circumstances in the column you linked.

However, if the shooting was not provoked, ie there he is lets gun him down, then [censored] is gonna fly.

Morpheus · #3 07-23-2005, 11:14 PM

Well, if he people were following you as you left your house and then you went to the subway and people were still following you , don't you think you might wonder why they were following you. You may either , 1) confront them and ask them what the hell they want 2) flee .

He chose to flee so he's dead.

Sightless · #4 07-24-2005, 12:09 AM

are you guys serious?

first police were not in their uniform so he couldnt have known who they were... Second he might not have been able to speak/understand english... and he might have just panicked and became afraid and just ran.. wouldnt you be afraid if 5 guys started chasing after you with guns...He could have thought that they were terroists themselfs

I understand why people would not want to blame police for this one... but to blame the guy is just DUMB

Morpheus · #5 07-24-2005, 12:11 AM

Didn't you read my posts, sightless ? UM, I'm on your side man and I believe I have been arguing your point. I agree. Police were out of uniform and following him when he left his house since they already had him under surveillance. They continued to follow him and when he ran, they shot him. Wow, what great police work. (I'm being sarcastic in this whole thread basically)

Sightless · #6 07-24-2005, 12:14 AM

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Didn't you read my posts, sightless ? UM, I'm on your side man and I believe I have been arguing your point. I agree. Police were out of uniform and following him when he left his house since they already had him under surveillance. They continued to follow him and when he ran, they shot him. Wow, what great police work. (I'm being sarcastic in this whole thread basically)

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Sorry I was not talkign about you...

smokingrobot · #7 07-24-2005, 03:27 AM

I just dont understand why he chose to flee. If you're not guilty, there's no need to run.

Its odd.

Edit:

I mean, i remember when i had gone home during college and someone thought i was robbing my own house. So as im walking out all these lights are being flashed in my eyes and people are screaming at me to get my hands in the air and i have guns pointed at me. At first i thought it was some joke my brother was playing on me, but then i saw like 5 or 6 cops show up.

I didnt run, i just sorta stood there smiling, put my hands in the air, and explained to them that i live in the house and i stopped by for the weekend unannounced (my folks were out of town, and the neighbors called the cops on me).

Maybe he didnt think they were cops and he thought he was being profiled for being of a specific ethnicity? who knows. it is a shame if he's innocent. it'll really cause such social havoc.

GuyOnTilt · #8 07-24-2005, 03:31 AM

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I just dont understand why he chose to flee. If you're not guilty, there's no need to run.

It's odd.

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No, it's not. They were in plain clothes. A lot of people would run if a bunch of normal looking guys pulled out guns and started trying to catch you.

GoT

2+2 wannabe · #9 07-24-2005, 03:33 AM

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I just dont understand why he chose to flee. If you're not guilty, there's no need to run.

It's odd.

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i think there's a little more to it than that

if i was in korea and they had a "shoot to kill" policy towards caucasian people - i'd be [censored] scared and probably [censored] my pants before they shot me

New001 · #10 07-24-2005, 03:47 AM

Imagine yourself as a minority or as a foreigner. Now, imagine you're in a country (after terrorist attacks not too unlike what we had here) where you, because of your appearance, may be subject to any of a number of hate crimes. See if your reaction to plainclothes cops with guns running at you changes.

The police here obviously thought this guy was dangerous, but if they had been watching him, they should have known differently. Whatever prompted them to kill him, it sucks either way.