Time to fold my two pair on the river?

hemstock · #1 07-23-2005, 04:18 PM

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero caps, MP2 calls, Button calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 folds, Button raises, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (21 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero?

No way I'm folding such a big pot for 1 bb. But then again, a lone queen beats me in a field of 4! Comments?

istewart · #2 07-23-2005, 04:21 PM

Yeah it's probably a fold given the flop and turn action, but with no reads at all I'd call. I'd fold preflop too.

Eh, the more I look at it the more it seems like a fold.

hemstock · #3 07-23-2005, 04:25 PM

You fold KJo from MP? Whenever I get it in MP im going like "damn I have to call now". I think I might stop limping with it.

VoraciousReader · #4 07-23-2005, 04:32 PM

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Eh, the more I look at it the more it seems like a fold.

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Hero is getting 24-1 on the call. Are you really 96% sure we're beaten here?

If there was a time to fold, it was on the flop or the turn, not now, in my opinion.

istewart · #5 07-23-2005, 05:18 PM

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Eh, the more I look at it the more it seems like a fold.

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Hero is getting 24-1 on the call. Are you really 96% sure we're beaten here?

If there was a time to fold, it was on the flop or the turn, not now, in my opinion.

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On the flop we have top pair and a good kicker. Folding is bad in my opinion. I wouldn't cap it necessarily though without a read. On the turn we have an inside straight draw. I think Villain has made it fairly obvious he has a straight here though.

eviljeff · #6 07-23-2005, 05:59 PM

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If there was a time to fold, it was on the flop or the turn, not now, in my opinion.

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can't fold the flop, and on the turn we've got po to chase our queen.

silkyslim · #7 07-23-2005, 06:01 PM

If you folded to the first bet (when the board was 4 to a str8 and BB led after you capped, there wouldnt be odds to draw to the queen.

istewart · #8 07-23-2005, 06:09 PM

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If you folded to the first bet (when the board was 4 to a str8 and BB led after you capped, there wouldnt be odds to draw to the queen.

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Why would you fold there getting 15:1?

hemstock · #9 07-23-2005, 06:16 PM

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Eh, the more I look at it the more it seems like a fold.

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Hero is getting 24-1 on the call. Are you really 96% sure we're beaten here?

If there was a time to fold, it was on the flop or the turn, not now, in my opinion.

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Well I folded. I think against 4 opponents Im not good more than 4%.
On the flop I guess the cap is wrong.
Preflop. Why is it wrong to limp KJo in an unraised pot?

Eeegah · #10 07-23-2005, 06:18 PM

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Preflop. Why is it wrong to limp KJo in an unraised pot?

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I think the prevailing wisdom is that you want to raise whenever there's one limper, to isolate him. However this doesn't exactly work at nanolimits where half the table will call anyway so I don't really see the point here.