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No reads - 18 person (2 table) tourney
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter UTG (t1230) UTG+1 (t1440) MP1 (t1450) MP2 (t1540) MP3 (t1440) CO (t2510) Button (t800) SB (t1590) Hero (t1500) Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t40, Button calls t40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t20, UTG calls t20. Flop: (t210) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t180</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t360</font>, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t700</font>, MP2 calls t340. Turn: (t1610) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t800 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: t2410 |
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I shove preflop. Check/folding half your stack just plain sucks.
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I shove preflop. Check/folding half your stack just plain sucks. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, I thought about pushing...would prob have gotten called too. sigh. |
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That's rough, I probably would push the flop, at the same time you've got a strong holding and the smaller reraise makes it that much easier to get his whole stack in on the turn. I think both lines are OK, but the way it worked out I kick the cat and fold.
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I think you played this hand fine, it's just too bad that your hand got counterfeited. Unless he's just some sort of kamikaze idiot that can't let go of JJ on a terrible flop, you have to be beat. One thing you might have tried is to just call the min-reraise to make sure that the next card off isn't terrible for your hand--which it unfortunately was. This could have saved you that last reraise. On the other hand, had you gotten all in on the flop and he had a decent A, then you would get all the money in with what was most likely a huge favorite, only to be sucked out on once again. So, I guess the glass if half full and you were able to play on.
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I shove preflop. Check/folding half your stack just plain sucks. [/ QUOTE ] i can't believe no one noticed this. seriously, i think viable lines are bet-push or bet-call (and then c/r a-i on the turn). betting and putting in the little reraise is kinda lame, imo. i think bet-push is best, as Ax has a lot of outs against you, so checking the turn to him is kinda scary. also, i'd fold pre-flop. |
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[ QUOTE ] I shove preflop. Check/folding half your stack just plain sucks. [/ QUOTE ] i can't believe no one noticed this. seriously, i think viable lines are bet-push or bet-call (and then c/r a-i on the turn). betting and putting in the little reraise is kinda lame, imo. i think bet-push is best, as Ax has a lot of outs against you, so checking the turn to him is kinda scary. also, i'd fold pre-flop. [/ QUOTE ] fold PF w/ those odds? As to pushing to the raise, I agree that I should have shoved. I was gonna push to lead on the turn, but... |
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you're not really getting odds nearly as good as you think. if you flop 1 pair your hand is garbage even though it might be a winner if you went to showdown. and more people just means there are more people to flop sets when you flop 2 pair.
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I actually agree, I would fold preflop but hey.
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you're not really getting odds nearly as good as you think. if you flop 1 pair your hand is garbage even though it might be a winner if you went to showdown. and more people just means there are more people to flop sets when you flop 2 pair. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, the problem with calling small raises/completing in the blinds is that we are sometimes "fooled" by apparent strong pot odds when really they are not as good as you think. How many flops are you really comfortable with with hands like Q7o? QQ7 is nice, 77Q etc...but most of the time, when you do catch a piece, you will be completely lost...and since you had such "great odds", this by definition means that there are many in the pot and therefore flopping TP with a 7 kicker and such can be really scary and tough to play multiway. The pot odds needed to give you the flops you would be comfortable with just are not there most of the time, and Ill usually toss hands like this. COnversely, and this may be counterintuitive, hands like 76s T8s 33 etc...which, HU are actually weaker hands to showdown, are much better to play because they can so easily become disguised monsters...and have many more flops that will do so, therefore giving you better pot odds preflop (and much better implied odds!). |
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