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Old 07-21-2005, 11:31 AM
JayKon JayKon is offline
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Default +/- bubble%

What is your and your normal SnG buyin, SNG Tracker +/- Bubble % and ~games


Mine is $11, +5% & 137.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: +/- bubble%

22, -4% and 700. -4% is due to me having been overly agressive over like 300 tours before i restrained myself abit.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:39 AM
HesseJam HesseJam is offline
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Default Re: +/- bubble%

I am playing the SnGs for a month now and always wondered what +/- bubble% means. Can anyone clue me in?

What's a good figure for that and why?
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: +/- bubble%

I already answered this...

Normally from 4-handed to ITM, being as there are 4 people left and 3 go on, you'd expect to be 75% ITM. For every % point you are over or below that, there is your +/-.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:49 AM
playtitleist playtitleist is offline
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Default Re: +/- bubble%

Thus, the calculation is:

Firsts + Seconds + Thirds / Firsts + Seconds + Thirds + Fourths

You then measure against 75%. But you need a LARGE sample size, because of the multiple variables including bad beats, short stacks, large stacks, good luck, disconnects, etc.
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Old 07-21-2005, 12:53 PM
HesseJam HesseJam is offline
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Default Re: +/- bubble%

Thanks for all the answers.

LARGE sample size means > 5000?
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: +/- bubble%

[ QUOTE ]
Thus, the calculation is:

Firsts + Seconds + Thirds / Firsts + Seconds + Thirds + Fourths

You then measure against 75%. But you need a LARGE sample size, because of the multiple variables including bad beats, short stacks, large stacks, good luck, disconnects, etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's correct.

I copied the stat (and most of the others) directly from SNG spreadsheet. I can't really comment on it's usefulness.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:53 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: +/- bubble%

this seems like a pretty useless stat. the # of chips you have when you get to 4-handed is going to have a huge effect.
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Old 07-21-2005, 12:01 PM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: +/- bubble%

not useless, but not the whole puzzle either; just a piece

if u have a low +/-% but feel u are pretty aggressive in the bubble, then that may tell u to look and see if u are always getting to bubble shortstacked, in which case u may wanna work on getting more chips earlier

however, it could also be low because u are more aggressive going for first and if ur 1/2/3 ratio is 50/25/25, then u shouldn't worry as much about a low +/-
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:46 AM
Mr_J Mr_J is offline
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Default Re: +/- bubble%

Well, it means the % you get ITM when on the bubble. So if there are 4 of you left, you should have a 75% chance of getting ITM. A high figure here isn't necessarily good, and could mean that you're not being aggressive enough on the bubble.
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