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Old 02-23-2003, 10:05 PM
Zeno Zeno is offline
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Default Norm Pie-in-the-sky Chomsky

I was driving to the big city yesterday, looking for a place to invest my money in durable goods, and also Sponging up my weekly dose of liberalism by listening to NPR (National Public Radio). NPR was broadcasting a recording of a recent address given by Norm Chomsky to the World Social Forum, held, I believe, somewhere in Brazil. After listening to his ravings for about 15 to 20 minutes, everything about his speech started to sound familiar, like some have forgotten dream that suddenly resurfaces. I have heard all this before I thought, the delivery, the sanctimonious tone, the know-it-all-of ness, you can turn on the 700 club and get a daily dose if you so desire. I use to get a weekly dose of the same nonsense, blasted from on high to the huddled masses sheepishly listening, or dosing, in the pews. He is like Billy Sunday, William Jennings Bryant, and any number of Popes or preachers, faith healers, corn doctors, or wild-west salesmen of snake oil.

He was preaching to the faithful, lambasting the evils of Capitalism, Imperialism, Bushism, Blairism, Americanism, and other isms that haunt the world he so much finds fault with. Hosannas rose from the crowd, cheers echoed from on high as he delivered His Gospel to slay the modern demons that infest the entire world. It is amazing that he not only knows so, so, so much, but that: HE HAS A SOLUTON FOR EVERYTHING. He sets up the monsters and then slays them ALL. In this regard he is a replica of the very people he rants so much against – The Politicians. Chomsky is a master propagandist.

The whole Gospel became dreary to me after realizing who and what this man is about. He has a following no doubt, all people of his ilk do. It is the herd nature of humans to muck along in the shadow of any man who can set up the biggest demons and then offer up the best exorcisms. He is a shaman and a modern day messiah. And a good one.


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Old 02-23-2003, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: Norm Pie-in-the-sky Chomsky

well what did he say?

im sure you agree torture is a bad thing. the people currently in power now dont. realistically if unchecked torture could become routine in the future. for example.
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Old 02-24-2003, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: Norm Pie-in-the-sky Chomsky

He said something about the U.S. plans for global domination, although nothing really specific was stated, as far as I can recall. Peasants being driven off land in Bolivia by "chemical warfare" (his term), rebels in Columbia, I think being killed by US support (arms support?), the evils of every corporation in existence, and other such ramblings, everything he said was in some way tied to the mother of all demons: America. At least, that was my impression of his speech; it did not flow in a particularly coherent manner.

I did not listen to all of his speech because - I arrived at the Mall before he could finish, and quietly turned off the radio, went inside and paid my dues to Capitalism in all of its meanness and evil. The sox I purchased were on sale. The book was not.

His ilk usually has a few salient points, all the more to dupe their following.

I find torture abhorrent and do not advocate it for any reason (did not we have a discussion of this a few months back?).

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Old 02-24-2003, 11:49 AM
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well US is torturing right now, despite our opinion.

youre eating gmo food, btw. we'll see how that works out. did anyone ask you if u mind being a guinae pig?

also its confirmed chem/bio warfare as part of 'drug war' in columbia. who cares brown short people arent human anyway screw them they dont own stock.

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Old 02-24-2003, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: Norm Pie-in-the-sky Chomsky

The strangest part is that the opposite of the things he rants against are even worse. For example, he rails against capitalism; yet as flawed as capitalism may be, communism is far worse. Communism killed more millions in the 20th century than any other "ism"--perhaps 100 million or so people--all for a pie-in-the-sky ideal which didn't work out (every communist country has been an immense economic failure). He ranted against the USA, although it's "opposite", the USSR, was far worse.

So: Chomsky loves to criticize the Western world and especially the USA. While he may only allude to what he sees as better large-scale solutions, I suspect that his solutions, if tried, would also be found in actuality to be far worse.




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Old 02-24-2003, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: Norm Pie-in-the-sky Chomsky

It is my opinion that the Uplifters and Wowsers of the world usually create more ills or large-scale disasters if their supposed solutions to alleged problems are implemented, Marx being an excellent example. So yes, I agree with your assessment.

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Old 02-25-2003, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: Norm Pie-in-the-sky Chomsky

I recommend a book by James C. Scott called Seeing Like a State, for examples and analysis of "how certain schmes to improve the human condition have failed."
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Old 02-24-2003, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: Norm Pie-in-the-sky Chomsky

State communism is not the only alternative to free market capitalism.
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Old 02-24-2003, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: Norm Pie-in-the-sky Chomsky

Of course. But I still think it significant that the opposites of things Chomsky rails against are even worse.
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Old 02-24-2003, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: Norm Pie-in-the-sky Chomsky

Ah, I see. I don't know if political systems really can be said to have opposites, but I take your point.
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