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Looking to give SNG's a shot and see if they can be profitable for me.
I searched and found Aleo's spreadsheet which is definately a sweet piece of work. When looking at the spreadsheet it gives a place to enter results for 11's, 22's, 33's and 55's. Does this mean that it basically isn't worth it to start playing at the $5 level and below, and if i'm going to give it a serious shot to just start at the 11's? thank you for your time. grouch |
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The $5 SNGs on Party have a 20% rake, which is why they should be avoided. The play at the 5+1s and the 10+1s are the same.
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Correct.
Very difficult to make money at the $5's on PP with a 20% rake vs. 10% for the $10's and up. If you really want to play the $6's, you can change the titles of the tabs on the bottom to whatever you want and adjust the baseline data in the sheet itself, i.e. the buy in etc. |
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Very difficult to make money at the $5's on PP with a 20% rake vs. 10% for the $10's and up. [/ QUOTE ] For greater clarity, he means you will just as easily make more money at the 10s because of the higher stake and the lower (relative) rake. The way this is worded almost seems to suggest that it is hard to make money at the 5+1s. In fact it is very easy to win there. The 5+1s are not as totally useless as some suggest. For one thing, you are less likely to lose your initial buyin there. For another, the 20% rake makes it even more preferential to "play for first" and less beneficial to "settle for third". So it can ingrain some good, aggressive habits into your bubble play if you're just starting out and need experience as much as you need winnings. |
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You pay as much rake at the $5s as at the $10s. The $10s are no harder, so yeh start with them.
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It's not a terrible idea to play the 5's, although you might want to play them on a site that offers .50 rake instead. There is a noticable difference in play between the 5's and the 10's, but the play on both is so bad that you should be able to win easily just by following Aleo's guide. If you have a bankroll of at least $200, I would just start with the 10's.
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There is a noticable difference in play between the 5's and the 10's, but the play on both is so bad that you should be able to win easily just by following Aleo's guide. [/ QUOTE ] There is zero difference in the level of play between the 5s and 10s. No offense to Aleo, but I would not follow his guide religiously. Good concepts (tight early play, aggressive bubble play) but I would not follow it robotically. Learn for yourself while following some of the general concepts. I think his guide contains some significant errors. Again, no offense to him, it is a good general guideline and I doubt that even he expected people to take it so literally. |
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There is zero difference in the level of play between the 5s and 10s. [/ QUOTE ] i have heard this time and again but it's not what i remember from when i was down there. Has anyone really studied this, or is this just accepted forum dogma that no one dares to challenge. i am willing to bet up to $1 (american even) that if you were to take a sample of, say, 200 5s and 200 10s and measured the number of players alive at the end of each level that the 5s would be below the 10s at each stage. the play is terrible (absolutely, unbelievable terrible) on both levels, but players bust out even faster in the 5s. or at least that's the way it was when i played the 5s, dagnabit. |
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Mosdef, there was a post about a month ago buy a new poster. It was a link to a website showing the average number of players left on each buy-in at each blinds level. Also the average length of an SNG for each buy-in. Can't find the post, but it was very interesting.
There was almost no difference in any of these categories between the 5s and 10s. I'm sure that some other people would remember this post and possibly have the website. |
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don't bother looking for the link. i believe you. i was just curious as to whether anyone really checked.
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