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Standard?
Im pretty sure this is completely standard so dont go thinking ive got something interesting. Just a checkup....
5/106max, UTG is loose and bad, nothing really sticks out yet. read is unimportant anyways i think. Preflop: UTG calls, MP raises, SB calls, I call in BB with 87o, UTG calls... Flop: A85rainbow, checked around Turn: A still rainbow, I bet, UTG thinks and calls, rest fold. River: 3 I check, UTG bets, I turbo muck. yes or no? |
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Re: Standard?
I think the river check fold is pretty awful. Either bet/fold or check/call. The guy has done nothing but check and call until the river and all the sudden you feel the need to turbo muck [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Re: Standard?
What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A.
He is not loose enough to be playing 67 UTG, no other draws out there. |
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Re: Standard?
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What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A. [/ QUOTE ] You'd be surprised. Seriously though, how about 22,44,A3s, KQ that he thinks is the best hand? |
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Re: Standard?
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[ QUOTE ] What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A. [/ QUOTE ] You'd be surprised. Seriously though, how about 22,44,A3s, KQ that he thinks is the best hand? [/ QUOTE ] hmmm....i think the type of player that would call the turn with 22 or 44 would check thru on the river. A3s??? ill ignore that one...KQ? i dunno, he was 40/17 i think he would have raised any big Ks. doesnt my play look exactly like i tried to CR the pfr? now im frustratedly betting out on the turn, certainly not bluffing into 4 players. he is sitting with the A and he doesnt want to drive away customers drawing dead, so he flat calls. i hate putting people on such narrow hand ranges, but in this situation i really cant see putting in any bets on the river. |
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Re: Standard?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A. [/ QUOTE ] You'd be surprised. Seriously though, how about 22,44,A3s, KQ that he thinks is the best hand? [/ QUOTE ] hmmm....i think the type of player that would call the turn with 22 or 44 would check thru on the river. A3s??? ill ignore that one...KQ? i dunno, he was 40/17 i think he would have raised any big Ks. doesnt my play look exactly like i tried to CR the pfr? now im frustratedly betting out on the turn, certainly not bluffing into 4 players. he is sitting with the A and he doesnt want to drive away customers drawing dead, so he flat calls. i hate putting people on such narrow hand ranges, but in this situation i really cant see putting in any bets on the river. [/ QUOTE ] If I count right after a long night you are getting 7 to 1 on the river after UTG bets. Yes the scenario you describe is quite a likely scenario but it will be otherwise often enough to make a check/fold wrong. I'm with NLS on either bet/folding or check/calling depending on a more specific read. Against an unknown probably check/call and ensure a showdown. |
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Re: Standard?
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What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A. [/ QUOTE ] Cant beleive you are convinced he has an A, because he called a turn bet, put yourself in his shoes, flop is checked around,pfr hasnt bet, then the BB bets out when an A hits turn again,would you fold evey hand that hadn't an ace in it? |
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Re: Standard?
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[ QUOTE ] What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A. [/ QUOTE ] Cant beleive you are convinced he has an A, because he called a turn bet, put yourself in his shoes, flop is checked around,pfr hasnt bet, then the BB bets out when an A hits turn again,would you fold evey hand that hadn't an ace in it? [/ QUOTE ] I still cant think of a hand he could call the turn with other than an A or K8. |
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Re: Standard?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A. [/ QUOTE ] Cant beleive you are convinced he has an A, because he called a turn bet, put yourself in his shoes, flop is checked around,pfr hasnt bet, then the BB bets out when an A hits turn again,would you fold evey hand that hadn't an ace in it? [/ QUOTE ] I still cant think of a hand he could call the turn with other than an A or K8. [/ QUOTE ] Every time you win a pot, take a look at the hand history and take note of the [censored] garbage poeple will call down with. You are giving your oppnenet WAAAAAY to much credit. |
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Re: Standard?
my WtSD is higher than most on this forum(35.5) and my FtRB is similar Im pretty sure(39). Im aware of people calling down with ahigh and crap but i am apparently blind to it in this particular situation.
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