Don't like 1-table SNGs with multiple places paying

[betgo]

I don't like and don't do particularly well in 1 table SNGs or satellite/steps with multiple places paying. Winner-take all satellites are fine. So are 2 or 3 table tournaments and heads up SNGs.

In these standard 100-60-40 paying SNGs, I have to cut down too much on my usual aggressive style when the blinds are large. I like to play to win rather than for survival.

[citanul]

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I don't like and don't do particularly well in 1 table SNGs or satellite/steps with multiple places paying. Winner-take all satellites are fine. So are 2 or 3 table tournaments and heads up SNGs.

In these standard 100-60-40 paying SNGs, I have to cut down too much on my usual aggressive style when the blinds are large. I like to play to win rather than for survival.

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er? ok. sorry?

but seriously: if you're cutting down your aggressive style when the blinds are large in "normal" sngs, either a) you're doing something wrong or b) i don't even want to know what your normal level of aggression is at whatever game you normally play...

citanul

[PrayingMantis]

yeah but those 50/30/20 SNGs are by far the most popluar format for a SNG, so getting used to the necessary adjustments is very +EV.

And about cutting down on your aggressive style when blinds are big (or let's say, around bubble) this is really more relevant (in some cases) in buy-ins <$100 I'd say. At the higher buy-ins, aggression when blinds are big is, generally, highly rewarded.

[betgo]

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yeah but those 50/30/20 SNGs are by far the most popluar format for a SNG, so getting used to the necessary adjustments is very +EV.

And about cutting down on your aggressive style when blinds are big (or let's say, around bubble) this is really more relevant (in some cases) in buy-ins <$100 I'd say. At the higher buy-ins, aggression when blinds are big is, generally, highly rewarded.

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People will play this miniraising, limping style with like 5xBB and it sort of works because they don't bust out as easily. Some loose/passive player will limp, I will push, and they will call me with KTo or something, and I wind up losing a coin flip and not making the cash. Or I will open push from the button with 5xBB and A9o, 22, KJ, 86s or something, get called, lose a coin flip, and not cash. In an MTT or winner take all sattellite, that push would be an automatic play.

I haven't tried any $100+ SNGs. I generally multitable. Since I can't beat the $30 and $50 ones well, I haven't tried bigger ones.

I have played in 3 ministep 5s. I liked the 2000-1200-800-500-200 payouts, because there is less of a bubble. I bought in directly, because I don't like the multiplace lower steps. I won the first one, but didn't place in two others.

[RhitTaker]

Personally, I LOVE getting two hands per round without posting a blind, when we're one elimination away from the money. In most SnGs, a 4-person table with a clearly-defined short stack is basically a license to print money. Even without a short stack, it's still "moving time".

I think it would hurt me to cut the number of payout spots. Not that this has anything to do with fairness, just my personal preference.

[Mr_J]

In an EV sense I'd prefer only top place paying too, but then the variance would go up to a silly level.

[microbet]

Winner take all STTs do call for more aggression than multiple places paying.

I know I'm agreeing with you.

Winner take all is a lot more like (perhaps exactly like) a cash game. I could be wrong, but I think the average opponent will play better in this format because there are fewer adjustments to make. That would mean lower ROIs as well as higher variance.

[curtains]

I think winner take all is somehow a lot less skill than 1/2/3 and that can't be too good of a thing.

[betgo]

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I think winner take all is somehow a lot less skill than 1/2/3 and that can't be too good of a thing.

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You would, given your name.

Incidently, your name is pretty funny.

[curtains]

btw I feel that even though I have more 1st places than 2nd/3rd by a large margin, that winner take all would be less profitable for me.