Best line with KQ...

HollywoodDB · #1 07-15-2005, 04:08 PM

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

I have no reads for Villian, which is to bad. I've seen him showdown 2 hands A6o and AJo both were A high and were no good.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 4 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero..?

What is my line here? 3-bet the flop or call and pop the turn? Explain.

tiltaholic · #2 07-15-2005, 04:11 PM

sometimes i check raise the turn but i only do that if i've since him fold. he doesn't sound like he folds. i 3-bet. and lead the turn

PokerBob · #3 07-15-2005, 04:27 PM

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sometimes i check raise the turn but i only do that if i've since him fold. he doesn't sound like he folds. i 3-bet. and lead the turn

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read it again

Dave G. · #4 07-15-2005, 04:12 PM

You've got it heads up and you're going to win this hand just about every time, so you're not worried about being drawn out on.

So I see two ways to play this, depending on MP1. If you're sure he'll bet the turn when checked to, then call the flop and check-raise the turn. This wins you an extra SB than if you 3-bet and he calls down from there.

If you're not sure, 3-bet the flop and lead all the way. You win less than a successful check-raise, but you win more than a whiffed check-raise.

HollywoodDB · #5 07-15-2005, 04:19 PM

Well, he is 1st to act, so I can't CR.

So, 3 bet the flop and bet/raise the turn?

Dubhawk · #6 07-15-2005, 04:21 PM

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Well, he is 1st to act, so I can't CR.

So, 3 bet the flop and bet/raise the turn?

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I'm going to call the flop, bet/raise to turn.

Dave G. · #7 07-15-2005, 04:22 PM

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Well, he is 1st to act, so I can't CR.

So, 3 bet the flop and bet/raise the turn?

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Woops. Very true. Well, you got the gist of it. Slow down on the flop and stick it to him on the turn. Since you have position this is a much better line, there's no chance of it being checked through. Give him a chance to lead into you when he is probably drawing close to dead.

ClonexxSA · #8 07-15-2005, 04:23 PM

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Well, he is 1st to act, so I can't CR.

So, 3 bet the flop and bet/raise the turn?

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If we lead the turn and he raises again, I may start to question myself and see monsters under the bed. The weak/tight in me would be screaming to just call and then check/call or bet/call a raise on the river.

The proper line however is probably call the flop, raise the turn and bet the river. I am a pansy though and that scares me...someone hold me.

HollywoodDB · #9 07-15-2005, 04:34 PM

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Well, he is 1st to act, so I can't CR.

So, 3 bet the flop and bet/raise the turn?

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If we lead the turn and he raises again, I may start to question myself and see monsters under the bed. The weak/tight in me would be screaming to just call and then check/call or bet/call a raise on the river.

The proper line however is probably call the flop, raise the turn and bet the river. I am a pansy though and that scares me...someone hold me.

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That would have to be a pretty big bed...I'm pretty sure MHIG.
My thought was that if I just called the flop, he would check the turn and fold to a bet if he has nothing. I'm hoping he does have a QT, QJ..etc. and we can go to war.

ClonexxSA · #10 07-15-2005, 06:52 PM

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Well, he is 1st to act, so I can't CR.

So, 3 bet the flop and bet/raise the turn?

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If we lead the turn and he raises again, I may start to question myself and see monsters under the bed. The weak/tight in me would be screaming to just call and then check/call or bet/call a raise on the river.

The proper line however is probably call the flop, raise the turn and bet the river. I am a pansy though and that scares me...someone hold me.

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That would have to be a pretty big bed...I'm pretty sure MHIG.
My thought was that if I just called the flop, he would check the turn and fold to a bet if he has nothing. I'm hoping he does have a QT, QJ..etc. and we can go to war.

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As I said, it's the weak tight in me and the fact that I have been on a downswing lately where I will show a monster and someone else will devour it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I have to force myself to get out of that scared thought process though.