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Old 07-15-2005, 12:58 PM
Gamblor Gamblor is offline
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Default What causes terrorism revisited

I propose that depression, humiliation, and occupation are not causes of terrorism.

Terrorism is a strategic tactic used by political leaders to bring worldwide attention to their cause.

I submit, that the people of Tibet, who have been oppressed and humiliated for decades, have never resorted to terrorism, while the fifth-rate human rights issue that is the Palestinians uses terrorism as a method of first resort and just received 3.5 billion dollars from the G8 nations.
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: What causes terrorism revisited

Isn't this a tad overly simplistic?
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:09 PM
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I propose that depression, humiliation, and occupation are not causes of terrorism.

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Remember you need somebody with strong enough hate, like suicide bombers. The factors above contribute to that. You see more terrorists in Gaza than in Jordan.

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Terrorism is a strategic tactic used by political leaders to bring worldwide attention to their cause.

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Jihadists have foras where they discuss what sort of terrorism will lead them closer to their goal, so obviously.

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I submit, that the people of Tibet, who have been oppressed and humiliated for decades, have never resorted to terrorism, while the fifth-rate human rights issue that is the Palestinians uses terrorism as a method of first resort and just received 3.5 billion dollars from the G8 nations.

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Actually, there is a Tibetian minority who wants to use more violence (all violence is labeled as terrorism today) but Dalai Lama has kept the lid on. The minority argues that violence has been effective elsewhere, in which they are true.
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: What causes terrorism revisited

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Remember you need somebody with strong enough hate, like suicide bombers. The factors above contribute to that. You see more terrorists in Gaza than in Jordan.

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if this is the case then how do you explain the london bombers? their lives were not "oppressed" like the palestinians
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:32 PM
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Remember you need somebody with strong enough hate, like suicide bombers. The factors above contribute to that. You see more terrorists in Gaza than in Jordan.

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if this is the case then how do you explain the london bombers? their lives were not "oppressed" like the palestinians

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I put in the word contribute due to that. Obviously there are other factors in place. Osama was neither directly "oppressed".
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: What causes terrorism revisited

Most "terrorism" around the world is nothing other than governments, in conjunction with the media, carrying out attacks on their own people to justify and rally support for their own agendas.

Why this is such a hard concept for most people to understand despite the sheer obviousness of it all, is simply beyond me.
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:26 PM
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While you may indeed have some valid points, I submit that a contributing factor to Palestinian terrorism is their human rights being thought about and treated as fifth-rate by the Jews.
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:41 PM
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While you may indeed have some valid points, I submit that a contributing factor to Palestinian terrorism is their human rights being thought about and treated as fifth-rate by the Jews.

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did the american slaves engage in acts of terrorism? how about the peoples conquered and enslaved, mistreated by the romans. Did the commoners engage in terrorism against nobels? These are genuine questions, that I do not have the answer to.
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Old 07-15-2005, 06:00 PM
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While you may indeed have some valid points, I submit that a contributing factor to Palestinian terrorism is their human rights being thought about and treated as fifth-rate by the Jews.

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Are the Tibetans being thought about and treated better by the Chinese?
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Old 07-15-2005, 06:16 PM
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Make up your own mind (Amnesty summary):

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The Israeli army killed more than 700 Palestinians, including some 150 children. Most were killed unlawfully — in reckless shooting, shelling and air strikes in civilian residential areas; in extrajudicial executions; and as a result of excessive use of force. Palestinian armed groups killed 109 Israelis — 67 of them civilians and including eight children — in suicide bombings, shootings and mortar attacks. Stringent restrictions imposed by the Israeli army on the movement of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories caused widespread poverty and unemployment and hindered access to health and education facilities. The Israeli army destroyed several hundred Palestinian homes, large areas of agricultural land, and infrastructure networks. Israel continued to expand illegal settlements and to build a fence/wall through the West Bank, confining Palestinians in isolated enclaves cut off from their land and essential services in nearby towns and villages. Israeli settlers increased their attacks against Palestinians and their property and against international human rights workers. Certain abuses committed by the Israeli army constituted crimes against humanity and war crimes, including unlawful killings; extensive and wanton destruction of property; obstruction of medical assistance and targeting of medical personnel; torture; and the use of Palestinians as “human shields”. The deliberate targeting of civilians by Palestinian armed groups constituted crimes against humanity.

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There was progress towards reform in some areas, but this failed to have a significant impact on serious and widespread human rights violations perpetrated across the country. Tens of thousands of people continued to be detained or imprisoned in violation of their fundamental human rights and were at high risk of torture or ill-treatment. Thousands of people were sentenced to death or executed, many after unfair trials. Public protests increased against forcible evictions and land requisition without adequate compensation. China continued to use the global “war on terrorism” to justify its crackdown on the Uighur community in Xinjiang. Freedom of expression and religion continued to be severely restricted in Tibet and other Tibetan areas of China.


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