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07-12-2005, 03:40 PM
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Laying down a set
Party 1/2, I have $200, villain has me covered. Villain is a regular in the game who is slightly over breakeven after about 500 hands. He's fairly tight preflop and I don't recall ever seeing him making any tricky moves. I have 33 on the button.
Villain opens for $8 in MP, someone calls, I call. Flop comes AJ3r Checked to me, I bet $20, villain is the only caller Turn is a 2, completing the rainbow Check, check River is a 9, he bets $50, I fold. I expect to get berated for this but those who are inclined to flame ought to think about what hands an unimaginative, straightforward villain plays this way. I thought of two and they both beat me. 
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07-12-2005, 03:51 PM
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Re: Laying down a set
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I'm not going to flame, but this is seriously weak. Why can't he have AK? [/ QUOTE ] I believe he leads this flop with AK close to 100% of the time. I also believe he'd check/call or blocking bet the river rather than leading out for so much.
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07-12-2005, 03:59 PM
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Re: Laying down a set
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not going to flame, but this is seriously weak. Why can't he have AK? [/ QUOTE ] I believe he leads this flop with AK close to 100% of the time. I also believe he'd check/call or blocking bet the river rather than leading out for so much. [/ QUOTE ] If this is honestly your attitude you should never call a raise pre-flop with small PP's.
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07-12-2005, 04:02 PM
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Re: Laying down a set
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If this is honestly your attitude you should never call a raise pre-flop with small PP's. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree there. I'd call someone that has AK wit 33 anyday.
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#6
07-12-2005, 04:07 PM
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Re: Laying down a set
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[ QUOTE ] If this is honestly your attitude you should never call a raise pre-flop with small PP's. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree there. I'd call someone that has AK wit 33 anyday. [/ QUOTE ] and then play it the way Ghazban did? Yes definitely +EV [/sarcasm]
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#7
07-12-2005, 04:09 PM
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Re: Laying down a set
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[ QUOTE ] If this is honestly your attitude you should never call a raise pre-flop with small PP's. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree there. I'd call someone that has AK wit 33 anyday. [/ QUOTE ] He meant to say that if you don't think he can play the way he did in this case with AK, then you shouldn't play small pairs.
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#8
07-12-2005, 04:17 PM
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Re: Laying down a set
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm not going to flame, but this is seriously weak. Why can't he have AK? [/ QUOTE ] I believe he leads this flop with AK close to 100% of the time. I also believe he'd check/call or blocking bet the river rather than leading out for so much. [/ QUOTE ] If this is honestly your attitude you should never call a raise pre-flop with small PP's. [/ QUOTE ] Knowing exactly how your opponent will play various types of hands postflop is a reason in favor of playing more pots with them, not a reason against it.
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07-12-2005, 04:31 PM
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Re: Laying down a set
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm not going to flame, but this is seriously weak. Why can't he have AK? [/ QUOTE ] I believe he leads this flop with AK close to 100% of the time. I also believe he'd check/call or blocking bet the river rather than leading out for so much. [/ QUOTE ] If this is honestly your attitude you should never call a raise pre-flop with small PP's. [/ QUOTE ] Knowing exactly how your opponent will play various types of hands postflop is a reason in favor of playing more pots with them, not a reason against it. [/ QUOTE ] Tell me how Ghazban expects to make money in this situation... If villain check-calls his bet, hes practically finished with his hand. If villain bets and Ghazban raises, hes almost definitely folding if hes missed ak, all the other times he has an overpair, i doubt hes investing much more into this pot, hes probably folding by the turn. This doesn't sound like a very +EV situation to me, perhaps you could explain how it is? Maybe Ghazban will make good on his initial investment everytime villain has a (missed) overpair or AK that has hit at the same time hes made his set, is this what you think?
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#10
07-12-2005, 06:12 PM
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Re: Laying down a set
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If this is honestly your attitude you should never call a raise pre-flop with small PP's. [/ QUOTE ] What a foolish thing to say. If he knows his opponent so well that he can actually get away from set under set, that's more reason to call with the small PP, not less. You are making the rather arrogant assumption that he is totally wrong and a terrible player, without leaving any room for the possibility that he simply knows his man. -Eric
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